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this hope radio for the masses headliner

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between July 8 1947

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here are the air force per person ops

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and applying their - found and there's

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now in the possession of the RA the game

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is rigged changed the game changer I

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occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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this is fade to black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer radio

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network and kgr a the global radio

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I need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fade to black with

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Jimmy judge on the game changing Network

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the smoke radio

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masses yeah man today's Wednesday

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314 days into the new year

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one day's left we are live from a bunker

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somewhere in the middle of beautiful

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and I would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world

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across the United States

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south far and near

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this is fade to black for kjc are the

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game-changer Network @kg are a the

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I am your host Jimmy Church what is

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crack and everybody how you doing

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oh man oh man

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there we go tonight

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very special guest Randall Carlson is

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here calling this show is that

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conversation there is nothing like

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sitting down with somebody like Randall

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Carlson and and engaging for two or

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three hours and that's what we're gonna

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do here tonight so much to discuss with

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them especially coming off of a great

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right and so we're gonna dovetail these

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two together and it is so important to

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figure out you know I'm gonna lay it out

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to you like this okay it's like this

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what is the purpose of being human of

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being alive if we are not able to ask

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questions about where we came from why

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are we here and where are we going that

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you know the three basic questions and

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you kind of acquit you know it's just

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like well you know why there are people

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out there that you don't you know why

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what what do you mean why you know there

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are when you do the research of maybe

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you're you know anthropologist right

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you're some kind of historian or you are

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an astronomer right and and you are

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looking at the Stars and you know

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looking at you know our future and our

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past through the Stars right or you're

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out digging in you know and looking at

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bones in our past or your geologist and

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you're these things aren't profitable

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you're not making money for some

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corporation there isn't products that

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you are selling you know and so there

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are those out there that would say you

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know why well you know what's the [\h__\h]

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wealthy if we can't ask these important

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right what what is it it's like going

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back and looking at you know you go back

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to Picasso and he's painting and you're

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who we are you know and and having

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get to sit down with the great Randall

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Carlson and have a conversation it's an

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that's what this community is all about

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tomorrow night is another Fator night

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open lines all night long with the

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premiere of teresa generis tomorrow

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night spent my day I'm very excited

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about this spent my day today you can

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see my teacher right tascam like that

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reel-to-reel I spent my day today tascam

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sent us a bunch of a production gear

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here I mentioned it the other day spent

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my day getting that worked out which by

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the way it's not running it will be

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tomorrow you should see what they they

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I can I get this up in here for the

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camera look at that pretty nice huh it's

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not working well it's working I just so

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anyway that and getting Teresa's new

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studio set up and it was just a crazy

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day or honey you're just a crazy day and

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when you spent four or five six hours

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then and you know and I've got Theresa

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up - it's just just a crazy frazzled day

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just a crazy day so anyway I didn't I

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five minutes in little two minute

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increments and I'm gonna talk about that

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in just a minute on stellar on stellar

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calm you know what to do go and follow

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like and subscribe to Twitter at you

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Church radio Facebook YouTube step out

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of line you get blocked that's what you

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hashtag F to be on Twitter and if you

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have any questions or comments during

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the show tonight

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hashtag F to be Q alright Jimmy check

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out this awesome remote control also it

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doesn't work I know right I mean look at

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this color screen soft buttons it's good

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look at that right hold on let me get

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this up look at that that's a remote

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control man doesn't work we'll tomorrow

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we'll tomorrow I promise and it's what

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else down here in the rack I can you

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know that that was installed too as well

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everything's powered up it's all cabled

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tell you what it's doing it's really

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really cool you can email Jimmy at Jimmy

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Church radio comm and I do want to thank

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tascam for the cool t-shirts and we'll

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be shooting videos and stuff for them

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with all of this new gear on and how it

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works alright alright don't forget to

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subscribe to our podcast it is just two

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dollars per month and click on the

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radio.com helps support the show alright

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also become a fader not in our

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Trivette radio comm you do what you want

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just go become a member and we will be

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launching the new website next month

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well it'll be December 31st we're gonna

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this year so yeah don't look for a show

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from us on that Monday let's get this

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show crackin happy birthday to today

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Joni Mitchell Joni Mitchell today is 75

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years old our dead guy's birthday today

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dana plato 1964 to 1999 died at the age

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of 34 of course he was a teen star on

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TVs Diff'rent Strokes from 1978 to 1986

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Show okay did an interview it was the

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next day driving back to California

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now they pull over visit somebody family

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1999 happy birthday dana plato on the

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state in history OTD 1991 Magic Johnson

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it's an easy one to figure out but it's

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kind of shocking - all right are you

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ready earth is the only planet that is

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not named after a god that's right

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that's your fader fact all right what

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what am i doing oh yeah Randall Carlson

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everything about us who we are where we

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where are we going all of that tonight

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with the one and only Randall Carlson I

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want to remind everybody tomorrow night

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is another Fator night open lines all

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night long with the premiere of Teresa

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and eros she's going to be here

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hopefully her studio her new one is

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you love my River moon coffee I started

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to warm up everybody in the community a

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vague and I understand that and at the

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time the comments that were coming in

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wall just about the same you know what's

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Jimmy on about what's Jimmy talking

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about I have no clue what he's talking

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about what's Jimmy talking about now get

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that well now you know sort of but I saw

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it all coming and I just wanted

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everybody to kind of brace themselves

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for the coming storm and and I didn't

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feel good about it okay there man this

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this was brewing now for a couple of

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years yep and when when I see something

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negative out there I don't care what it

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is believe it or not my reaction to

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negativity is block block it doesn't

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care I in my day from the moment that I

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wake up until I hit

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the read on air light for this show I am

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working I'm working I'm writing I'm

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researching I'm booking guests I'm

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talking to guess I'm advancing the show

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I'm working on the audio I'm working on

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production artwork in things and audio

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I'm the studio and you know what I also

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have a life out there you know and I've

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got to deal with all of that and my dogs

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and and then things right and my family

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and my daughters and my beautiful wife

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all of that applies to my day and

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anything out there that takes me off of

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point takes me off a message I don't

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care I don't care I block I'm not

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distracted that's what I do

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okay and so all of this was building up

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all of this was building and I saw it I

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saw it coming in you know and I met it

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and and because of that and Here I am

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today now talking to you with the entire

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nation right now freaking out we've just

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finished the elections yesterday and all

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of the emotional things that are going

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on in this country is divided and it's

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craziness and Jeff Sessions got fired

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today resigned you know and so we get

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through the elections and we come into

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today and hopefully it's a fresh start

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for everybody whatever side you are on

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red blue middle green I don't care right

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all of that all of that is going on the

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craziness in the world and country

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everything is nuts right now right so

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all of these emotions are flying the

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timing couldn't be better for our family

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here to react and lose it over a bunch

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of nothing seriously and if you really

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think about it if you really think about

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it what is all of this about UFOs alien

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contact

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disclosure really we want to blow this

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thing up over that it's crazy there are

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individuals right now right now that

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want to be the district attorney they

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want to be the police they want to be

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the judges of our community and it

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doesn't work that way

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and I'm talking about from any side I'm

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not naming any names I'm talking about

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pick a side and somebody out there is

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trying to tell you or somebody else how

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it is they want to run things and I'm

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telling you right now

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it doesn't matter who you are you know

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exactly what I am saying every side this

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community can police itself it always

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has and it always will don't think that

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you are the Lord and Commander that you

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can go and do whatever you want and

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point fingers you know but I'm talking

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about all sides here the blame the anger

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that finger-pointing it's gone on for so

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long from so many different sources on

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all sides I'm talking about from

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companies from individuals from

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researchers from authors abductees

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experiencer it is nuts to me it's gone

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back a couple of years and if you've

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been blocked by me well there you go

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right it doesn't matter but listen to me

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I am calling right now right now for

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this community to chill chill

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I'm asking for a truce it has now gotten

328
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to the point where the flames the anger

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and everything else ever get bit getting

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pushed into a corner and it doesn't

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matter

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the victims are and and who is playing

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the games because it's on both sides

334
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it's on every side so I am asking right

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now a truce

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if you've been doxed truce if you are

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daxing truce if you are angry truce if

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you don't believe somebody truce if

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you're somebody that has been blamed

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truce you want to react time out that's

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it and I know I know that right now

342
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everybody that I am talking about is

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listening to me so I am asking you

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stop stop stop tweeting stop texting

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stop posting stop commenting stop and

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just stop stop it's time for a truce the

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prize here the price you know what I'm

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concerned about you know what I care

349
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about I care about are we being visited

350
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right now by et what does the government

351
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know what's going on in the skies what's

352
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going on with Egypt what's going on with

353
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ancient civilizations you know what's

354
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going on with time travel and parallel

355
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universes the these big conspiracies

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going on it that's what I care about

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that's the prize that's what we need to

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be focused on that's it

359
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you know and to think that there are

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victims right now people that are been

361
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attacked from all sides to it it doesn't

362
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matter that are

363
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lying in bed at night freaked out

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because of personal attacks and they you

365
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know you know what that's wrong you just

366
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don't do it there are people that that

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are that are being attacked that I'm not

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fans of I don't even know I don't

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concern myself with but they don't

370
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deserve it

371
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I may not you know approve or whatever

372
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but we don't do this there are people

373
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right now that are doing these attacks

374
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out of vengeance or reacting you know oh

375
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they attacked me I'm going to attack

376
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back stop it it's time for a truce there

377
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are people right now that are lying in

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bed in the dark with their eyes open

379
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looking at the ceiling going man I can't

380
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wait to just get up tomorrow and do

381
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something you know what over UFOs over a

382
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Lea are you kidding me I'm done with it

383
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I'm done

384
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doxxing is wrong attacking is wrong

385
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personal attacks are wrong you know what

386
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is right trying to figure out what is

387
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going on in the skies up there what is

388
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going on that is what you need to focus

389
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your energy on not reacting not freaking

390
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out I don't want people losing sleep

391
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wondering about how somebody is going to

392
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attack them on Facebook or on Twitter or

393
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or an email or on a website on a YouTube

394
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video comment thread thing that is just

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wrong

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and that's not what this community is

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about and quite frankly I'm tired and I

398
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saw it coming

399
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and I just tried to warn everybody how

400
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is it that I have to sit here on a

401
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beautiful show like tonight and speak

402
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about this and its really now it's

403
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gotten to be that big of a deal so today

404
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I am running around I am talking with

405
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technicians at companies I

406
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when I say running around I'm missing a

407
00:23:00,680 --> 00:22:59,100
cable I'm out I'm on the phone I'm

408
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trying to figure things out I'm I'm

409
00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:02,610
coming back I'm bolting in on this I'm

410
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software and I'm changing file names and

411
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downloading and just craziness here and

412
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I just spin around in the middle of the

413
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day and I look and I just happen to

414
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glance at Twitter and I'm watching

415
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what's going on it's just like man are

416
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we too are we you know 2 years old so

417
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yes I'm asking for a truce I

418
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we need a timeout everybody take a deep

419
00:23:45,470 --> 00:23:41,640
breath it's been building for a couple

420
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of years and in the end those out there

421
00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:48,630
on any side that have been nitpicking

422
00:23:53,450 --> 00:23:51,360
and poking and just just thumbing each

423
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:53,460
other in the chest and what did you

424
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:55,050
think the end result was gonna be and

425
00:24:00,340 --> 00:23:57,690
now everybody's upset right well now

426
00:24:04,460 --> 00:24:00,350
it's come down to what we are doxxing

427
00:24:07,610 --> 00:24:04,470
are you kidding me this community we are

428
00:24:09,710 --> 00:24:07,620
supposed to be you know fourth

429
00:24:13,970 --> 00:24:09,720
dimensional fifth dimensional six

430
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:13,980
invention of beings of of benevolence of

431
00:24:17,930 --> 00:24:16,290
kindness of being awakened and

432
00:24:19,970 --> 00:24:17,940
consciousness and moving into the future

433
00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:19,980
and concerned about this planet and Gaia

434
00:24:26,150 --> 00:24:22,710
and earth and things and pets and look

435
00:24:28,940 --> 00:24:26,160
if that's what we are about and if you

436
00:24:32,570 --> 00:24:28,950
are taking out your time to attack

437
00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:32,580
others or or reacting and attack back

438
00:24:35,690 --> 00:24:33,600
and you think you're doing the right

439
00:24:36,350 --> 00:24:35,700
thing you are losing the respect of this

440
00:24:39,290 --> 00:24:36,360
community

441
00:24:41,270 --> 00:24:39,300
nobody is going to respect you and I

442
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:41,280
don't care who you are because I'm

443
00:24:50,930 --> 00:24:46,410
speaking to everybody done with it I'm

444
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:50,940
done so listen to me listen post

445
00:24:56,060 --> 00:24:53,010
something negative on Twitter you're

446
00:24:58,940 --> 00:24:56,070
blocked post something negative on

447
00:25:01,850 --> 00:24:58,950
Facebook I don't care you're blocked Oh

448
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:01,860
Jimmy block me man I'm on the blood list

449
00:25:07,670 --> 00:25:03,090
well good for you

450
00:25:10,940 --> 00:25:07,680
cuz I don't care i don't i don't care

451
00:25:14,540 --> 00:25:10,950
I'm encouraged if that's what if that's

452
00:25:17,330 --> 00:25:14,550
what it takes you know that all of the

453
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:17,340
negativity this community will block you

454
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:23,010
into insignificance it's really true so

455
00:25:27,620 --> 00:25:25,410
it's time for everybody to grow up put

456
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:27,630
on your big-boy pants your big-girl

457
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:30,570
pants tighten your shoelaces it's time

458
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:35,490
for a truce bite your lip and and live

459
00:25:41,780 --> 00:25:38,850
with it we need to move on there is

460
00:25:43,850 --> 00:25:41,790
other stuff to worry about like having

461
00:25:47,090 --> 00:25:43,860
this beautiful show tonight with Randall

462
00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:47,100
and and I've got to sit here leading up

463
00:25:52,090 --> 00:25:49,440
to this by the way let me tell you

464
00:25:54,650 --> 00:25:52,100
something I just spent six hours today

465
00:25:57,650 --> 00:25:54,660
frustrated and putting gear into this

466
00:26:00,080 --> 00:25:57,660
studio my nerves are already frazzled

467
00:26:03,170 --> 00:26:00,090
and I've got two moments before the show

468
00:26:07,580 --> 00:26:03,180
come back on and I am reading this stuff

469
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:07,590
and I'm simply wait a minute here you

470
00:26:12,650 --> 00:26:09,690
know and I know I know some of these

471
00:26:16,190 --> 00:26:12,660
people personally and I know how cool

472
00:26:19,130 --> 00:26:16,200
they are I know how may be unstable it

473
00:26:21,380 --> 00:26:19,140
we're all emotional you know we're all

474
00:26:25,070 --> 00:26:21,390
emotional beings and what brings us into

475
00:26:27,020 --> 00:26:25,080
this community are things that that not

476
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:27,030
only are emotional but you know what

477
00:26:33,620 --> 00:26:30,330
they're fragile and we start to go and

478
00:26:36,110 --> 00:26:33,630
and mess with those things that are we

479
00:26:37,070 --> 00:26:36,120
whole precious and dear it's easy to

480
00:26:39,860 --> 00:26:37,080
come unhinged

481
00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:39,870
and people know that and they're poking

482
00:26:45,380 --> 00:26:41,760
at this community and it's just you know

483
00:26:48,260 --> 00:26:45,390
we got to stop we have got to stop and

484
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:48,270
that's my message that's what this show

485
00:26:55,030 --> 00:26:51,120
has always been about and it's community

486
00:26:59,120 --> 00:26:55,040
first so that's it that's my message

487
00:27:03,350 --> 00:26:59,130
truce truce and from this moment forward

488
00:27:07,370 --> 00:27:03,360
I'm not playing listen to me from this

489
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:07,380
moment forward any negativity people are

490
00:27:13,630 --> 00:27:10,890
going to recognize it because you're

491
00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:13,640
part of the problem now you can change

492
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:17,130
right now just go you know what okay

493
00:27:21,950 --> 00:27:18,570
enough is enough

494
00:27:25,289 --> 00:27:21,960
all right let's give it a shot

495
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:25,299
let's give it a shot let's just let's

496
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:28,450
just all get along time out

497
00:27:36,289 --> 00:27:31,840
sometimes you got a retreat and you got

498
00:27:43,580 --> 00:27:42,840
all this over UFOs really really think

499
00:27:45,810 --> 00:27:43,590
about that

500
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:45,820
it's fade to black I'm your host Jimmy

501
00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:49,570
Church yeah you can email me Jimmy at

502
00:27:55,489 --> 00:27:52,960
Jimmy Church radio.com all right there

503
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:55,499
you go I won't even read it on the air

504
00:27:59,369 --> 00:27:57,730
let's get out of here I want to have

505
00:28:03,299 --> 00:27:59,379
some fun I want to talk to Randall

506
00:28:05,239 --> 00:28:03,309
Carlson watch me change my tune I'm

507
00:28:10,289 --> 00:28:05,249
gonna go through this commercial break

508
00:28:11,249 --> 00:28:10,299
I'm gonna come back bright-eyed and

509
00:28:14,759 --> 00:28:11,259
bushy-tailed

510
00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:14,769
it's all good all right time out

511
00:28:19,980 --> 00:28:17,200
we're moving on it's fade to black i'm

512
00:28:21,659 --> 00:28:19,990
your host jimmy church email those to me

513
00:28:27,619 --> 00:28:21,669
at Jimmy Turks radio.com follow me on

514
00:28:31,259 --> 00:28:27,629
twitter @ JT radio yeah a block yet a

515
00:28:32,270 --> 00:28:31,269
block yeah I'll be right back after this

516
00:28:49,090 --> 00:28:32,280
short break stay with us

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all right welcome back fade to black I'm

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hosting the church tonight Randall

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Carlson is here tomorrow night Bay

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tonight open lines all night long

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premiere of Teresa generis she's gonna

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be here dividing frequency on the

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airwaves premiering tomorrow night very

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excited about that

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and I was just watching in Twitter okay

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Jimmy you want a truce you got to

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unblock everybody you know I've got 4500

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people blocked in Twitter I'm not

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kidding I just checked all right

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yeah I'll take a look at that I'll

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consider it

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okay I will I will I will look I

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practice what I preach all right but now

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00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:07,600
it's about Randall he's a master builder

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architectural designer teacher and the

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00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:14,310
thing is about Randall he's a renegade

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he's been for decades of study research

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and exploration into the interface

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between the ancient mysteries and modern

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science has been an active Freemason for

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thirty years and it is a past master one

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of the oldest and largest Masonic lodges

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in Georgia he has been recognized by the

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National Science Teachers Association

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for his commitment to science education

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for young people his work incorporates

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ancient mythology astronomy earth

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science paleontology symbolism sacred

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geometry and architecture geomancy and

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other arcane and scientific traditions

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for over 25 years he has presented

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classes lectures and multimedia programs

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synthesizing this information for

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students of the mysteries tonight we're

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gonna go back we're gonna go way back

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into the history of North America the

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true history before Columbus or anyone

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else who say that they may have

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discovered America and the evidence of

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other civilizations that may have

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started here and spread around the world

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and then we're gonna look to the future

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we're gonna do it all tonight

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that's why I'm calling it the

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conversation his web site is sacred

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geometry international comm and I would

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like to welcome back to fade to black a

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man of sense and sensibilities and the

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nice beard Randall Carlson Randall good

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evening my friend how are you well

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thanks for having me back Jimmy I'm

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actually doing pretty well other than a

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strained hamstring from over exercising

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this morning other than that I'm doing

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well can I can I throw you under the bus

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a little bit and tell everybody about

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our brief conversation before the show

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tonight because it was it was pretty

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cool it's funny so hopefully it's not

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anything embarrassing right

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it's-it's yeah exactly for both of us in

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that I'm just gonna let everybody know

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so Randall Randall calls me we always

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talked before the show and he calls me

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and he was like Jimmy I'm depending on

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you tonight I need you to brighten my

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day I need to get relaxed I want I need

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you to pull it all out I was like

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Randall I need you for the same things

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I'm completely stressed and it was just

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so funny how we brought both looking

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forward to the show and getting psyched

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up and pumped up and we we needed each

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other for the same exact reasons so here

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we are Randall you're brightening my day

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thank you for that well thank you Jimmy

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I'm trying to do whatever I can I know

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that you need all the little boost you

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can get in your day-to-day routine and

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so if I can help in that matter okay I'm

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all for it no bad wait give me till I

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get you out in the field for a few days

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I know you know I'm so looking forward

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to that opportunity where we can just go

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and and disconnect you know leave our

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cell phones away from us and just go and

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check out this great country of ours and

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and oh man yeah yeah I look forward to

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that Randall and thank you for the

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invitation you know it we have our paths

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have been so close to crossing over the

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last few years and we have missed those

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opportunities we're talking about that

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tonight

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you know we narrowly missed each other a

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couple of years ago and and I just can't

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believe that we let that slip by us but

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we can't let it happen again all right I

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agree now I actually want to start here

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00:37:55,900 --> 00:37:52,470
tonight let's kind of relax and let's go

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00:37:58,970 --> 00:37:55,910
back a couple of steps your

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presentations and your web presence and

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your conversations especially over the

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last few years have had a lot of impact

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on myself personally and this community

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what what started this interest for you

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I mean going back when you and I'm

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talking about the interest

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not only cataclysms and world events but

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past civilizations and and in the

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distant distant past what what advantage

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do we have to learning these things why

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go and do it why the commitment oh well

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lucky that was actually several

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questions let's tackle the last one

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first which was basically why do it I

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mean the question becomes why do

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anything to perpetuate our continued

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existence we do things every day to make

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sure that we optimize our chances of

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surviving through the day right when we

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get in our car and we strap ourselves in

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with our seatbelts when we're going to

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cross the street and we look both ways

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you know the idea is that whatever the

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purpose and value of life I think it's

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our job here to attempt to sustain that

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life and so I guess you'd say that what

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I'm looking at is the long-term

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sustainability of human civilization on

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earth because up to this point we

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haven't had a really good track record

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because what we see is the leftovers of

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multiple civilizations that rose from

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the dust thrived for a while prospered

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for a while and then for whatever reason

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00:39:40,789 --> 00:39:38,430
went down and there's a lot of lessons

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00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:40,799
there that we have to learn about again

741
00:39:46,759 --> 00:39:44,609
long-term sustainability and I guess

742
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that's kind of what I'm trying to do is

743
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to get more people to shift their

744
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perspective a little bit to take in the

745
00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:54,509
big picture rather than just the

746
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day-to-day events the the trivia of day

747
00:40:01,999 --> 00:39:59,609
to day that occupies so much of our time

748
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and so much of our attention so much of

749
00:40:06,470 --> 00:40:05,009
our consciousness is important and we

750
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have to deal with that but it's the same

751
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time if we ignore the big picture we're

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going to be in trouble

753
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and I would like to think that there is

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a that there is a long-term game plan

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that we can be successful on this planet

756
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that we can be prosperous that we can

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continue to improve as a species to get

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more intelligent and wiser and I think

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that turning to our past and the lessons

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00:40:32,299 --> 00:40:30,599
and the like

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you see of our ancestors that have come

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00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:34,499
before us is going to be absolutely

763
00:40:40,609 --> 00:40:36,710
vital in attaining that kind of

764
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absolutely necessary perspective and so

765
00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:44,160
what kicked it off then and and and so

766
00:40:46,849 --> 00:40:45,569
that's the back end right that's the

767
00:40:49,130 --> 00:40:46,859
last question first

768
00:40:50,569 --> 00:40:49,140
what happened Randall said there was

769
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something in your life where you just

770
00:40:58,190 --> 00:40:55,380
went okay I need to do this I mean well

771
00:41:00,739 --> 00:40:58,200
I get asked that question and I keep

772
00:41:02,839 --> 00:41:00,749
going back trying to pinpoint okay I it

773
00:41:05,359 --> 00:41:02,849
was that thing it was that event it was

774
00:41:07,009 --> 00:41:05,369
that day and really Jimmy I think I got

775
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to go right back and say I've been

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cursed since the day I was born I had I

777
00:41:18,049 --> 00:41:15,539
had no alternative I just said I came

778
00:41:21,410 --> 00:41:18,059
into this world like going what the holy

779
00:41:24,849 --> 00:41:21,420
[\h__\h] man I need to figure this out so I

780
00:41:28,190 --> 00:41:24,859
can recall being seven years old walking

781
00:41:30,410 --> 00:41:28,200
distance Oda and back in those days a

782
00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:30,420
seven-year-old could walk you know a

783
00:41:35,420 --> 00:41:32,960
quarter mile over to a neighbor's house

784
00:41:38,349 --> 00:41:35,430
the wolves had been cleared out about

785
00:41:40,670 --> 00:41:38,359
that time in the Coyotes and the the

786
00:41:42,859 --> 00:41:40,680
bobcats and so on so there wasn't too

787
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:42,869
much fear so I was walking over to a

788
00:41:46,609 --> 00:41:45,119
neighbor's house and visited a friend

789
00:41:50,690 --> 00:41:46,619
and then I was walking back and they had

790
00:41:52,190 --> 00:41:50,700
a big willow tree on the hill that they

791
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:52,200
lived on and I just remember stopping

792
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:54,930
under that willow tree and having I

793
00:41:58,219 --> 00:41:56,130
guess what you would say my first

794
00:42:01,940 --> 00:41:58,229
mystical experience in life were

795
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:01,950
everything just seemed to converge into

796
00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:05,729
a grand synthesis and for about ten

797
00:42:09,769 --> 00:42:07,049
minutes I stood there under that tree

798
00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:09,779
feeling like it was totally at one with

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everything and then the feeling went

800
00:42:16,430 --> 00:42:14,160
away and I went home and resumed my life

801
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:16,440
but I'll never forget that that might be

802
00:42:21,410 --> 00:42:19,170
the earliest time I can remember that

803
00:42:23,259 --> 00:42:21,420
there was a sense of something grander

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00:42:25,339 --> 00:42:23,269
or something great or something to

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00:42:28,249 --> 00:42:25,349
transcended that the day-to-day the

806
00:42:29,870 --> 00:42:28,259
mundane routine of our existence and

807
00:42:33,769 --> 00:42:29,880
then I can go on and there were

808
00:42:36,410 --> 00:42:33,779
different points you know experiences I

809
00:42:39,229 --> 00:42:36,420
had probably more than anything I

810
00:42:42,499 --> 00:42:39,239
believe it was probably growing up in a

811
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rural environment and I had because of

812
00:42:46,549 --> 00:42:43,890
the fact that my parents got

813
00:42:49,309 --> 00:42:46,559
horst when I was 9 years old I grew up

814
00:42:52,190 --> 00:42:49,319
back and forth between the world of my

815
00:42:55,279 --> 00:42:52,200
mother which was Louisiana and the world

816
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:55,289
of my father which was Minnesota so I

817
00:43:01,220 --> 00:42:57,839
had rural Minnesota and I had rural

818
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:01,230
small town backwoods Louisiana

819
00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:05,010
experiences so I think between those and

820
00:43:09,529 --> 00:43:06,720
traveling up and down the Mississippi

821
00:43:12,259 --> 00:43:09,539
River typically on a daily base daily a

822
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:12,269
yearly basis when I go to visit one or

823
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:15,510
the other parent just you know these

824
00:43:21,740 --> 00:43:19,200
things just kind of accumulate there was

825
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:21,750
also a place that I used to go with my

826
00:43:27,470 --> 00:43:24,450
grandparents up on the st. Croix River

827
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:27,480
which forms the border between part of

828
00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:29,910
Minnesota and part of Wisconsin and it's

829
00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:33,119
a beautiful River Valley it's now a sort

830
00:43:36,740 --> 00:43:35,250
of like a nature preserve but there's a

831
00:43:39,289 --> 00:43:36,750
section in there with our basalt

832
00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:39,299
outcrops and on one of these basalt

833
00:43:43,700 --> 00:43:41,250
outcrops on the Minnesota side of the

834
00:43:46,430 --> 00:43:43,710
river there's a series of these gigantic

835
00:43:49,609 --> 00:43:46,440
potholes that have been drilled up to 80

836
00:43:52,309 --> 00:43:49,619
feet into the bedrock some mark 25 feet

837
00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:52,319
in diameter and we used to go there is

838
00:43:57,620 --> 00:43:54,569
when I was a kid and it's a park and you

839
00:44:00,109 --> 00:43:57,630
go in there and and I just remember

840
00:44:02,990 --> 00:44:00,119
being there probably eight nine years

841
00:44:06,769 --> 00:44:03,000
old seeing these big potholes and

842
00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:06,779
wondering what what's the story here I

843
00:44:11,269 --> 00:44:08,880
mean how do you get how do you get an

844
00:44:13,370 --> 00:44:11,279
80-foot pothole drilled into bedrock

845
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:13,380
right that's an interesting question and

846
00:44:17,359 --> 00:44:15,450
it's a question that I now know the

847
00:44:19,849 --> 00:44:17,369
answer to but and didn't know the answer

848
00:44:22,130 --> 00:44:19,859
to for four decades after that but it

849
00:44:25,130 --> 00:44:22,140
was those kinds of things that were kind

850
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:25,140
of gestate in the back of my mind you

851
00:44:29,329 --> 00:44:27,210
know we grew up on the lake and that

852
00:44:31,579 --> 00:44:29,339
lake was a cattle lake which is a type

853
00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:31,589
of Lake that's left over after the

854
00:44:37,099 --> 00:44:34,079
retreat of the great ice sheets this was

855
00:44:40,370 --> 00:44:37,109
in Minnesota obviously not Louisiana and

856
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:40,380
so living on this lake you know and

857
00:44:45,339 --> 00:44:42,690
being surrounded by a landscape that had

858
00:44:47,630 --> 00:44:45,349
been totally sculpted by the the

859
00:44:50,749 --> 00:44:47,640
presence of these great glaciers and

860
00:44:53,690 --> 00:44:50,759
their retreat it somehow made an

861
00:44:55,849 --> 00:44:53,700
impression on me that just I came away

862
00:44:57,459 --> 00:44:55,859
with this sort of intuitive sense by the

863
00:45:01,099 --> 00:44:57,469
time I was probably

864
00:45:03,859 --> 00:45:01,109
adolescent age that there was meaning in

865
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:03,869
that landscape there was a story or a

866
00:45:08,209 --> 00:45:06,690
narrative in the landscape and of course

867
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:08,219
it wasn't really probably until two

868
00:45:12,380 --> 00:45:10,170
decades later that I really began to

869
00:45:14,930 --> 00:45:12,390
understand that yeah there literally is

870
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:14,940
you know the the landscape of the whole

871
00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:17,249
planet in fact has been shaped by these

872
00:45:23,870 --> 00:45:20,640
great events in some places more

873
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:23,880
spectacularly than others and of course

874
00:45:28,759 --> 00:45:26,249
you know the late 60s came along and I

875
00:45:31,729 --> 00:45:28,769
was you know right of prime age during

876
00:45:36,289 --> 00:45:31,739
all of that late 60s and early 70s and

877
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:36,299
that led me to Oh living in a state

878
00:45:40,430 --> 00:45:38,130
living in a lean-to up in the Rocky

879
00:45:42,609 --> 00:45:40,440
Mountains at 11,000 feet for three

880
00:45:44,779 --> 00:45:42,619
months and just sitting up there

881
00:45:46,069 --> 00:45:44,789
contemplating the nature of the

882
00:45:49,969 --> 00:45:46,079
Continental Divide

883
00:45:53,180 --> 00:45:49,979
and trying to understand really what

884
00:45:55,699 --> 00:45:53,190
process has led to this situation in

885
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:55,709
which I find myself sitting on this you

886
00:46:00,829 --> 00:45:57,450
know on this Ridge on these mountains

887
00:46:02,420 --> 00:46:00,839
you know basically right up in central

888
00:46:06,380 --> 00:46:02,430
Colorado right on the Continental Divide

889
00:46:09,890 --> 00:46:06,390
and and I came away from that I think

890
00:46:11,989 --> 00:46:09,900
just really curious about yeah again the

891
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:11,999
sense that there was some kind of story

892
00:46:17,420 --> 00:46:14,640
within the landscape waiting to unfold

893
00:46:19,519 --> 00:46:17,430
and so it was this kind of a thing that

894
00:46:22,609 --> 00:46:19,529
has sort of been in the back of my

895
00:46:24,380 --> 00:46:22,619
consciousness ever since you know my

896
00:46:26,689 --> 00:46:24,390
teenage years but it wasn't till I would

897
00:46:29,089 --> 00:46:26,699
say I was probably in my late 20s that I

898
00:46:32,749 --> 00:46:29,099
really began to go okay I'm going to

899
00:46:34,699 --> 00:46:32,759
study the sciences and try to gain

900
00:46:38,569 --> 00:46:34,709
access to the knowledge I need to make

901
00:46:41,180 --> 00:46:38,579
sense of this this intimation I have

902
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:41,190
that there is this story in the

903
00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:42,890
landscape that has not yet been

904
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:48,089
deciphered so I began more formal

905
00:46:52,729 --> 00:46:49,920
studies enrolled in college and major in

906
00:46:56,089 --> 00:46:52,739
geology took a lot of astronomy and math

907
00:46:59,930 --> 00:46:56,099
and history courses so that I could

908
00:47:02,329 --> 00:46:59,940
begin to see that you know I think what

909
00:47:04,670 --> 00:47:02,339
came out was of that was the realization

910
00:47:07,069 --> 00:47:04,680
that the terrestrial realm and the

911
00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:07,079
celestial realm that there was not a

912
00:47:11,089 --> 00:47:09,599
clear division between them that that

913
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:11,099
the celestial realm had a much

914
00:47:17,269 --> 00:47:14,249
bigger role to play in the shaping of

915
00:47:19,190 --> 00:47:17,279
the world here below and that sort of

916
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:19,200
has been confirmed you know by the last

917
00:47:24,259 --> 00:47:21,450
30 years of research as we realize the

918
00:47:26,809 --> 00:47:24,269
multiple ways that the earth and and the

919
00:47:28,489 --> 00:47:26,819
cosmos interact with each other but this

920
00:47:30,979 --> 00:47:28,499
was something that that our ancestors

921
00:47:32,599 --> 00:47:30,989
were well aware of and they encoded that

922
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:32,609
in to their mythology into their

923
00:47:38,660 --> 00:47:35,249
architecture into their symbology into

924
00:47:41,029 --> 00:47:38,670
their art and so the other aspect of

925
00:47:44,509 --> 00:47:41,039
this was you know early on getting a

926
00:47:47,539 --> 00:47:44,519
love of mythology starting with Greek

927
00:47:49,670 --> 00:47:47,549
and Scandinavian mythology

928
00:47:53,660 --> 00:47:49,680
I was just thoroughly entranced by the

929
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:53,670
stories from the mythical records and

930
00:47:58,729 --> 00:47:56,130
mythical archives the story of Ragnarok

931
00:48:01,400 --> 00:47:58,739
and and the the battle of the gods and

932
00:48:03,469 --> 00:48:01,410
the Giants just really affected me when

933
00:48:05,329 --> 00:48:03,479
I was 9 and 10 years old is this when I

934
00:48:07,249 --> 00:48:05,339
first learned how to read this was some

935
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:07,259
of the stuff that I got really absorbed

936
00:48:13,009 --> 00:48:09,930
in later on I came to realize that

937
00:48:16,940 --> 00:48:13,019
underneath all that mythic imagery was

938
00:48:19,729 --> 00:48:16,950
actual real world phenomena and that had

939
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:19,739
been encoded into the symbology the

940
00:48:24,589 --> 00:48:22,049
archetypal symbology of the myths that

941
00:48:27,769 --> 00:48:24,599
have come down to us from many venues

942
00:48:31,249 --> 00:48:27,779
all over the world so I can't really put

943
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:31,259
my finger on any specific point where it

944
00:48:35,209 --> 00:48:33,359
all gelled I will say that I've said

945
00:48:38,359 --> 00:48:35,219
this before there was one day I actually

946
00:48:40,700 --> 00:48:38,369
can pinpoint when it was the summer

947
00:48:43,969 --> 00:48:40,710
early summer 1969 and it was a very

948
00:48:47,209 --> 00:48:43,979
beautiful day and there was a place

949
00:48:49,339 --> 00:48:47,219
called Flying Cloud Airport south east

950
00:48:51,279 --> 00:48:49,349
of Minneapolis and it was on bluffs

951
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:51,289
overlooking the Minnesota River Valley

952
00:48:56,599 --> 00:48:54,089
and there was a concert out there one

953
00:48:58,190 --> 00:48:56,609
Saturday or Sunday free days have free

954
00:49:00,799 --> 00:48:58,200
concerts out there and I would go out

955
00:49:02,269 --> 00:49:00,809
there and and enjoy the music and one

956
00:49:06,259 --> 00:49:02,279
day I guess it was a break in the music

957
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:06,269
I wandered away from the from the area

958
00:49:09,799 --> 00:49:08,160
where the the audience was gathered and

959
00:49:12,999 --> 00:49:09,809
I wandered probably two three four

960
00:49:15,799 --> 00:49:13,009
hundred yards over to this to the

961
00:49:17,809 --> 00:49:15,809
perimeter of these Bluffs that look down

962
00:49:19,959 --> 00:49:17,819
over the Minnesota River Valley and I

963
00:49:22,279 --> 00:49:19,969
remember standing there for a long time

964
00:49:23,809 --> 00:49:22,289
during this break into music just

965
00:49:24,540 --> 00:49:23,819
looking out over the valley and this is

966
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:24,550
what I

967
00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:26,890
on the far side of the valley which I

968
00:49:31,620 --> 00:49:29,110
now know was about four miles distant I

969
00:49:33,630 --> 00:49:31,630
saw set of Bluffs that were sort of the

970
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:33,640
matching set of Bluffs that I was

971
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:35,680
standing on right I'm looking to the

972
00:49:41,220 --> 00:49:38,110
south because here the river is running

973
00:49:45,060 --> 00:49:41,230
east to west down below I see the little

974
00:49:49,410 --> 00:49:45,070
the ribbon of the modern Minnesota River

975
00:49:51,420 --> 00:49:49,420
and it's minuscule obviously compared to

976
00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:51,430
this big channel it's four miles wide

977
00:49:55,860 --> 00:49:54,400
yet it had the same appearance I could

978
00:49:58,920 --> 00:49:55,870
see that there were Bluffs on either

979
00:50:00,420 --> 00:49:58,930
side of the Minnesota River which is you

980
00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:00,430
know not a little river it's it's a

981
00:50:04,980 --> 00:50:02,110
medium-sized river it's a it's got a

982
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:04,990
healthy flow but I remember seeing that

983
00:50:11,660 --> 00:50:07,210
and getting this sense that I was

984
00:50:14,490 --> 00:50:11,670
looking at a bigger a giant version of

985
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:14,500
what I was seeing in terms of the the

986
00:50:18,330 --> 00:50:16,570
river below when I was looking at the

987
00:50:20,550 --> 00:50:18,340
banks and seeing those banks how they

988
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:20,560
correspond into these two bluffs and I

989
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:23,770
thought is it possible that this is a

990
00:50:29,490 --> 00:50:28,090
giant river valley and that was just

991
00:50:32,220 --> 00:50:29,500
again one of those things stuck in the

992
00:50:34,860 --> 00:50:32,230
back of my craw well right but 10 years

993
00:50:37,980 --> 00:50:34,870
11 years later I had started studying

994
00:50:39,930 --> 00:50:37,990
geometry I've been because as a builder

995
00:50:42,990 --> 00:50:39,940
I got very interested in geometry and

996
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:43,000
architecture and how other cultures and

997
00:50:48,660 --> 00:50:45,370
ancient peoples how they build things

998
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:48,670
how they design things so as I was

999
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:50,530
getting into all of that I kept running

1000
00:50:57,660 --> 00:50:54,640
across this same patterns of symbology

1001
00:51:00,480 --> 00:50:57,670
and and meaning encoded in ancient

1002
00:51:02,820 --> 00:51:00,490
structures all over the world and one of

1003
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:02,830
the things that I that I realized as I

1004
00:51:07,470 --> 00:51:05,050
began to study the methodology behind

1005
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:07,480
the building of the Gothic cathedrals

1006
00:51:12,210 --> 00:51:10,330
the building and the Mayan structures

1007
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:12,220
and how they laid out their cities and

1008
00:51:17,970 --> 00:51:15,010
their temples the Greek temples the

1009
00:51:20,220 --> 00:51:17,980
systems of geometry they used was that

1010
00:51:23,070 --> 00:51:20,230
there was this there is a principle

1011
00:51:26,190 --> 00:51:23,080
called scale invariance now what that

1012
00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:26,200
means is in architecture it means that

1013
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:28,480
the part reflects the whole that there's

1014
00:51:32,700 --> 00:51:31,090
a proportional constant between the

1015
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:32,710
piece of the thing and the whole of the

1016
00:51:37,319 --> 00:51:34,930
thing right and this this is the basis

1017
00:51:41,430 --> 00:51:37,329
of harmony in architecture and art

1018
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:41,440
this-this-this method of linking the

1019
00:51:45,660 --> 00:51:43,089
hole with the part because there's this

1020
00:51:47,309 --> 00:51:45,670
constant of proportionality there what

1021
00:51:51,390 --> 00:51:47,319
that means is that if you took the part

1022
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:51,400
and you enlarge it you blew it up if it

1023
00:51:55,739 --> 00:51:53,680
read it could duplicate the pattern or

1024
00:51:58,319 --> 00:51:55,749
the geometry or the proportions of the

1025
00:52:00,630 --> 00:51:58,329
hole right this is scale invariance so

1026
00:52:03,329 --> 00:52:00,640
that no matter what scale you're looking

1027
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:03,339
at it's the same idea behind fractals is

1028
00:52:09,380 --> 00:52:06,249
it regardless of the scale the pattern

1029
00:52:12,180 --> 00:52:09,390
appears the same right well this

1030
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:12,190
principle is also very important in

1031
00:52:18,059 --> 00:52:15,130
geology in particular in particularly in

1032
00:52:20,099 --> 00:52:18,069
fluvial geomorphology which looks at the

1033
00:52:23,309 --> 00:52:20,109
patterns of landscapes that are created

1034
00:52:25,069 --> 00:52:23,319
and sculpted by water right so the

1035
00:52:28,739 --> 00:52:25,079
principle of scale and variance I

1036
00:52:30,479 --> 00:52:28,749
discovered was in embedded in the

1037
00:52:33,569 --> 00:52:30,489
principles of ancient architectural

1038
00:52:36,209 --> 00:52:33,579
design right well it's also embedded in

1039
00:52:38,099 --> 00:52:36,219
the natural world because I'll give you

1040
00:52:40,799 --> 00:52:38,109
a practical example anybody can pick up

1041
00:52:41,789 --> 00:52:40,809
a textbook on geology right you open it

1042
00:52:44,759 --> 00:52:41,799
up and you start looking at the

1043
00:52:47,039 --> 00:52:44,769
photographs you'll always see something

1044
00:52:49,769 --> 00:52:47,049
in the photograph it might be a person

1045
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:49,779
standing there it might be a rock pick

1046
00:52:53,969 --> 00:52:51,729
it's placed in there might be the

1047
00:52:56,609 --> 00:52:53,979
geologists hat place but there's

1048
00:52:58,829 --> 00:52:56,619
something put in the picture for scale

1049
00:53:00,569 --> 00:52:58,839
right because if you take that out you

1050
00:53:02,430 --> 00:53:00,579
go wait a second am i looking at a rock

1051
00:53:05,309 --> 00:53:02,440
outcrop here that's three feet high or

1052
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:05,319
300 feet high mm-hmm you don't know that

1053
00:53:12,299 --> 00:53:09,130
scale invariance so I was actually I

1054
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:12,309
think was 1979 1980 I was giving a

1055
00:53:18,539 --> 00:53:15,839
lecture on on the principles of

1056
00:53:21,059 --> 00:53:18,549
architecture as I had understood them at

1057
00:53:23,849 --> 00:53:21,069
that time and how this concept of scale

1058
00:53:26,999 --> 00:53:23,859
invariance was so important in in so

1059
00:53:31,620 --> 00:53:27,009
many examples of ancient architecture

1060
00:53:33,779 --> 00:53:31,630
right so then I cited as an example to

1061
00:53:36,420 --> 00:53:33,789
show comparison well yes so just as we

1062
00:53:39,539 --> 00:53:36,430
have scale invariance in architecture in

1063
00:53:43,049 --> 00:53:39,549
ancient principles of design and art we

1064
00:53:46,289 --> 00:53:43,059
also have it in geology and I cited the

1065
00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:46,299
example of standing on the bluffs

1066
00:53:51,150 --> 00:53:48,400
looking out at the Minnesota River

1067
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:51,160
Valley seeing this giant chain

1068
00:53:55,290 --> 00:53:53,680
in thinking that the giant channel and

1069
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:55,300
the small channel that the modern

1070
00:54:00,180 --> 00:53:57,970
Minnesota River flowed in were was an

1071
00:54:04,170 --> 00:54:00,190
example of scale and variance and that

1072
00:54:06,060 --> 00:54:04,180
just as the small river with two banks

1073
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:06,070
there was a giant river and I basically

1074
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:07,570
explained this and there was a guy in

1075
00:54:13,140 --> 00:54:10,570
the audience who had had had a degree in

1076
00:54:14,730 --> 00:54:13,150
geology and he stood up or raised his

1077
00:54:16,980 --> 00:54:14,740
hand or whatever and he challenged me

1078
00:54:18,750 --> 00:54:16,990
and said no no no no no we know that

1079
00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:18,760
those are formed over millions of years

1080
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:22,960
of erosion right and I I was like well I

1081
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:24,970
have to think his name was John I said

1082
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:27,850
well John I I'm you know I'm reasonably

1083
00:54:33,510 --> 00:54:30,730
confident that I'm right here but I

1084
00:54:35,570 --> 00:54:33,520
couldn't really defend why I knew I was

1085
00:54:39,060 --> 00:54:35,580
right I just had such a strong

1086
00:54:41,250 --> 00:54:39,070
instinctive sense that that I was right

1087
00:54:43,260 --> 00:54:41,260
but what it did it pissed me off enough

1088
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:43,270
that I actually went and enrolled in a

1089
00:54:49,830 --> 00:54:45,970
formal geology course and began studying

1090
00:54:52,530 --> 00:54:49,840
geology really formally and in and of

1091
00:54:54,750 --> 00:54:52,540
course now later on I realized of course

1092
00:54:57,150 --> 00:54:54,760
that I was right and he was wrong and in

1093
00:54:59,790 --> 00:54:57,160
fact geologists have made a study of

1094
00:55:02,490 --> 00:54:59,800
that and they call it River Warren and

1095
00:55:04,650 --> 00:55:02,500
it was caused by the outburst of glacial

1096
00:55:07,710 --> 00:55:04,660
Lake Agassiz which was a pro glacial

1097
00:55:10,020 --> 00:55:07,720
lake which busted out if anybody looks

1098
00:55:12,630 --> 00:55:10,030
at a map of Minnesota you'll see on the

1099
00:55:16,020 --> 00:55:12,640
western boundary of Minnesota there's a

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00:55:19,380 --> 00:55:16,030
bump this bump about halfway up that

1101
00:55:22,050 --> 00:55:19,390
bump was the Chandler was initially cut

1102
00:55:24,450 --> 00:55:22,060
by the draining of this gigantic Pro

1103
00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:24,460
glacial Lake and when that water drained

1104
00:55:30,090 --> 00:55:27,040
down it cut the Minnesota River Valley

1105
00:55:33,630 --> 00:55:30,100
and created what the geologists who have

1106
00:55:36,690 --> 00:55:33,640
studied it glacial River Warren their

1107
00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:36,700
estimated peak discharge puts it at four

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00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:39,730
thousand times greater than the modern

1109
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:42,010
flood stage of the Minnesota River can

1110
00:55:46,380 --> 00:55:44,290
you know this is all we got to take a

1111
00:55:49,650 --> 00:55:46,390
break right here but this is what this

1112
00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:49,660
is when I think about this is the

1113
00:55:57,050 --> 00:55:53,710
violence right can you imagine how crazy

1114
00:56:00,510 --> 00:55:57,060
violent it was when it was going down

1115
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:00,520
that's what I do Jimmy I imagine that we

1116
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:02,770
have and I've got to take a break right

1117
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:04,810
here but two points

1118
00:56:12,420 --> 00:56:08,410
I want to go back and address with you

1119
00:56:15,390 --> 00:56:12,430
one I had it was an eighth grade I had a

1120
00:56:18,140 --> 00:56:15,400
teacher make this quick I did teach her

1121
00:56:21,240 --> 00:56:18,150
Indiana history was the class and

1122
00:56:22,860 --> 00:56:21,250
imagined this he was probably 60 years

1123
00:56:25,710 --> 00:56:22,870
old you know I'm just a little kid in

1124
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:25,720
the middle of the 70s and he goes now

1125
00:56:32,550 --> 00:56:29,170
Indiana is flat until Brown County where

1126
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:32,560
the hill start because above you was 2

1127
00:56:40,350 --> 00:56:36,370
miles of ice right that that fine I just

1128
00:56:43,170 --> 00:56:40,360
he he changed my life Randall I had to

1129
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:43,180
sit there and think about 2 miles of ice

1130
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:46,810
above my head Indianapolis there was

1131
00:56:53,370 --> 00:56:50,050
that and then just like you and then

1132
00:56:56,490 --> 00:56:53,380
when I was about 21 years old I went out

1133
00:56:58,020 --> 00:56:56,500
to the desert with a friend here in

1134
00:57:00,600 --> 00:56:58,030
Southern California and he looks really

1135
00:57:03,870 --> 00:57:00,610
ghosts now see all of those see them all

1136
00:57:06,870 --> 00:57:03,880
all of those Peaks around us those were

1137
00:57:11,420 --> 00:57:06,880
all islands at one point this was all

1138
00:57:14,730 --> 00:57:11,430
water and up there you know and I I just

1139
00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:14,740
visualized that for a second and you

1140
00:57:19,050 --> 00:57:17,110
drive around the United States and you

1141
00:57:20,780 --> 00:57:19,060
go through New Mexico or you go through

1142
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:20,790
these parts where you see all of these

1143
00:57:29,370 --> 00:57:24,370
all of this geology and you realize that

1144
00:57:31,230 --> 00:57:29,380
at one point those were Islands you know

1145
00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:31,240
just like in in Minnesota where you're

1146
00:57:35,850 --> 00:57:33,520
talking about there too as well it's a

1147
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:35,860
crazy world that we live in and to go

1148
00:57:39,930 --> 00:57:37,930
back and contemplate it instead of

1149
00:57:41,550 --> 00:57:39,940
ignoring it I think that is one of the

1150
00:57:44,610 --> 00:57:41,560
coolest things that we can do is go back

1151
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:44,620
in and figure out why because it was a

1152
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:47,610
violent change at one point violent

1153
00:57:55,110 --> 00:57:51,930
life-changing cataclysmic events

1154
00:57:58,620 --> 00:57:55,120
absolutely yeah you can't exaggerate it

1155
00:57:59,970 --> 00:57:58,630
at all you can't the violence was must

1156
00:58:02,460 --> 00:57:59,980
have been incredible let's take a break

1157
00:58:06,090 --> 00:58:02,470
right here and and I just think about

1158
00:58:09,300 --> 00:58:06,100
the melting ice and and those changes

1159
00:58:11,250 --> 00:58:09,310
those glaciers went somewhere and when

1160
00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:11,260
they Randall when they went somewhere

1161
00:58:17,130 --> 00:58:14,110
something else disappeared that's a

1162
00:58:17,940 --> 00:58:17,140
crazy crazy concept this is paid to

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black our guest

1164
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tonight Randall Carlson tonight is the

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conversation

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I am eros Jimmy Church we're gonna pick

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up where we left off when we come back

1168
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our guest is Randall Carlson stay with

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[Applause]

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[Music]

1261
01:03:11,039 --> 01:03:07,630
welcome back fade to black coming home

1262
01:03:16,199 --> 01:03:11,049
Jimmy Church can follow me on twitter @

1263
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JT radio to follow Randall at sacred

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geometry International I think it's int

1265
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it's right there on Twitter talking

1266
01:03:26,699 --> 01:03:25,239
about everything tonight and ran all I

1267
01:03:28,829 --> 01:03:26,709
want to pick up what we left off and

1268
01:03:33,419 --> 01:03:28,839
kind of dovetail into two different

1269
01:03:37,319 --> 01:03:33,429
subjects into this next segment and one

1270
01:03:42,089 --> 01:03:37,329
of them is this I want to start here why

1271
01:03:44,939 --> 01:03:42,099
is it that and this is your opinion why

1272
01:03:47,099 --> 01:03:44,949
is it that North America and this

1273
01:03:50,009 --> 01:03:47,109
continent you can even include South

1274
01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:50,019
America but North America is ignored

1275
01:03:55,829 --> 01:03:52,689
when it comes to ancient history in

1276
01:03:57,900 --> 01:03:55,839
history everybody else is concerned with

1277
01:04:00,269 --> 01:03:57,910
everything else on this planet but

1278
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:00,279
nobody wants to talk about us but you

1279
01:04:07,469 --> 01:04:05,410
why is that well I gotta say not only me

1280
01:04:09,989 --> 01:04:07,479
but Graham's new book about Graham

1281
01:04:11,849 --> 01:04:09,999
Hancock's new book is America before and

1282
01:04:14,819 --> 01:04:11,859
so he is trying to address that

1283
01:04:16,529 --> 01:04:14,829
deficiency as we speak and I think his

1284
01:04:18,390 --> 01:04:16,539
new book will go a long way towards that

1285
01:04:20,099 --> 01:04:18,400
so I want to definitely throw out an

1286
01:04:23,039 --> 01:04:20,109
endorsement for that but it's a very

1287
01:04:25,979 --> 01:04:23,049
good question and one of the reasons I

1288
01:04:27,870 --> 01:04:25,989
think that that occurs are you there I'm

1289
01:04:29,339 --> 01:04:27,880
here I'm listening to you okay yeah

1290
01:04:31,289 --> 01:04:29,349
sounded like my line went dead for a

1291
01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:31,299
second okay sorry

1292
01:04:35,729 --> 01:04:33,609
deep here's the thing if we look at the

1293
01:04:38,189 --> 01:04:35,739
trend of modern history we kind of see

1294
01:04:41,130 --> 01:04:38,199
that civilization kind of branches out

1295
01:04:42,689 --> 01:04:41,140
from certain epicenters you know the

1296
01:04:44,669 --> 01:04:42,699
Middle East being one of the the big

1297
01:04:46,439 --> 01:04:44,679
ones earlier than that

1298
01:04:48,689 --> 01:04:46,449
you know the east central highlands of

1299
01:04:50,729 --> 01:04:48,699
Africa being another zone where it

1300
01:04:53,579 --> 01:04:50,739
appears that you know hominid species

1301
01:04:55,709 --> 01:04:53,589
branched out we don't see such a thing

1302
01:04:58,799 --> 01:04:55,719
in North America North America was

1303
01:05:01,589 --> 01:04:58,809
called the new world right because it

1304
01:05:04,529 --> 01:05:01,599
was being rediscovered well that whole

1305
01:05:07,079 --> 01:05:04,539
paradigm is being completely overturned

1306
01:05:09,150 --> 01:05:07,089
because we're realizing that the story

1307
01:05:12,209 --> 01:05:09,160
of what went on here goes back much much

1308
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:12,219
further on you know last fall I had the

1309
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:14,170
opportunity to spend a couple of days

1310
01:05:19,260 --> 01:05:17,170
with Albert Goodyear who is the lead

1311
01:05:21,770 --> 01:05:19,270
archaeologist on the stoppers

1312
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:21,780
which is right along the savannah river

1313
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:24,130
that separates North and South Carolina

1314
01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:26,410
or actually separates Georgia from South

1315
01:05:31,559 --> 01:05:30,160
Carolina right right and very

1316
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:31,569
interesting what was going on there you

1317
01:05:37,470 --> 01:05:34,650
know he was a one of the principal art

1318
01:05:39,059 --> 01:05:37,480
archeologists looking at the Clovis the

1319
01:05:41,370 --> 01:05:39,069
evidence for the Clovis culture you know

1320
01:05:45,030 --> 01:05:41,380
which was this short-lived culture that

1321
01:05:46,859 --> 01:05:45,040
appeared very suddenly around thirteen

1322
01:05:49,589 --> 01:05:46,869
thousand four hundred to thirteen

1323
01:05:53,839 --> 01:05:49,599
thousand five hundred years ago were

1324
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:53,849
very prominent left a very prolific

1325
01:05:59,190 --> 01:05:56,050
archaeological record in terms of their

1326
01:06:02,329 --> 01:05:59,200
their debe ties their toolkits their

1327
01:06:04,950 --> 01:06:02,339
their spear points and so on and then

1328
01:06:06,809 --> 01:06:04,960
and suddenly as they appeared they

1329
01:06:08,849 --> 01:06:06,819
disappeared right around twelve thousand

1330
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:08,859
nine hundred years ago quarries that had

1331
01:06:15,030 --> 01:06:11,890
been actively mined for a half a

1332
01:06:17,819 --> 01:06:15,040
millennium were suddenly abandoned you

1333
01:06:20,809 --> 01:06:17,829
know village sites community sites where

1334
01:06:23,450 --> 01:06:20,819
they had lived were suddenly abandoned

1335
01:06:26,220 --> 01:06:23,460
radiocarbon dating shows that the

1336
01:06:28,260 --> 01:06:26,230
organic evidence of their presence all

1337
01:06:30,329 --> 01:06:28,270
suddenly just ceases right around twelve

1338
01:06:33,150 --> 01:06:30,339
thousand nine hundred now for a long

1339
01:06:36,329 --> 01:06:33,160
time Clovis was considered to be and it

1340
01:06:39,660 --> 01:06:36,339
was assumed to be the oldest culture in

1341
01:06:41,700 --> 01:06:39,670
North America in the traditional concept

1342
01:06:43,620 --> 01:06:41,710
was that they emigrated across the

1343
01:06:46,140 --> 01:06:43,630
bering land bridge which connected

1344
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:46,150
siberia to alaska when sea levels were

1345
01:06:52,770 --> 01:06:50,050
lowered and before they rose and and

1346
01:06:56,970 --> 01:06:52,780
drowned the land bridge which was an

1347
01:07:00,150 --> 01:06:56,980
enormous lee huge tract of land people

1348
01:07:03,510 --> 01:07:00,160
don't realize that North America and

1349
01:07:06,990 --> 01:07:03,520
North East Asia were essentially one

1350
01:07:09,450 --> 01:07:07,000
landmass the Bering Land Bridge was

1351
01:07:12,359 --> 01:07:09,460
actually larger in area than the state

1352
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:12,369
of Alaska so you know it just it's

1353
01:07:17,010 --> 01:07:15,130
difficult to kind of comprehend that you

1354
01:07:19,140 --> 01:07:17,020
know at North America and Asia were a

1355
01:07:21,660 --> 01:07:19,150
single landmass but they were during

1356
01:07:24,150 --> 01:07:21,670
whenever the ice grew and sea levels

1357
01:07:27,660 --> 01:07:24,160
dropped you know it exposed enormous

1358
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:27,670
swaths of land along the peripheries of

1359
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:31,450
the continents and in the case of the

1360
01:07:36,540 --> 01:07:32,890
continental shelves

1361
01:07:39,030 --> 01:07:36,550
we Alaska and Siberia it was vast enough

1362
01:07:42,270 --> 01:07:39,040
that it created this it exposed this

1363
01:07:45,630 --> 01:07:42,280
whole landscape that is now underwater

1364
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:45,640
that's essentially now extinct but the

1365
01:07:51,500 --> 01:07:48,250
idea was that the Clovis people came

1366
01:07:53,940 --> 01:07:51,510
across during some interval when the ice

1367
01:07:56,190 --> 01:07:53,950
ameliorated enough that there was an

1368
01:07:58,920 --> 01:07:56,200
ice-free corridor not yet if you look at

1369
01:08:01,230 --> 01:07:58,930
a map of North America you had basically

1370
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:01,240
- if I'm going to try to describe this

1371
01:08:05,250 --> 01:08:02,770
so thought those who are listening can

1372
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:05,260
try to get the picture you had two great

1373
01:08:09,090 --> 01:08:06,970
ice sheets over North America the

1374
01:08:11,340 --> 01:08:09,100
biggest one was centered more or less on

1375
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:11,350
Hudson Bay and this is the one that

1376
01:08:15,930 --> 01:08:13,690
reached up to 2 miles in thickness and

1377
01:08:18,030 --> 01:08:15,940
it was called the Laurentide Ice Sheet

1378
01:08:20,540 --> 01:08:18,040
and it extended it's the one that

1379
01:08:24,180 --> 01:08:20,550
extended down into Indiana Ohio Illinois

1380
01:08:26,580 --> 01:08:24,190
Minnesota and it extended west all the

1381
01:08:28,830 --> 01:08:26,590
way to Alberta now you had a second Ice

1382
01:08:31,490 --> 01:08:28,840
Sheet now I'll say that the Laurentide

1383
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:31,500
Ice Sheet was about the size of the

1384
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:33,970
Antarctic Ice Sheet that now swaddles

1385
01:08:39,450 --> 01:08:36,610
the South Pole then you had the

1386
01:08:43,170 --> 01:08:39,460
Cordilleran ice sheet which which

1387
01:08:45,540 --> 01:08:43,180
flanked over the top of the Canadian

1388
01:08:48,690 --> 01:08:45,550
Rockies it was about an reached from

1389
01:08:51,510 --> 01:08:48,700
northern Washington state up to Alaska

1390
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:51,520
now it was about the size of the ice cap

1391
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:53,530
that now covers Greenland so you had

1392
01:08:58,650 --> 01:08:55,930
these two great ice sheets right at some

1393
01:09:01,170 --> 01:08:58,660
point as they grew they grew together so

1394
01:09:04,460 --> 01:09:01,180
there was no passageway between them but

1395
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:04,470
in other times probably somewhere around

1396
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:08,530
14,000 years ago when the cold deep cold

1397
01:09:13,410 --> 01:09:10,690
of the Ice Age began to ameliorate or

1398
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:13,420
soften the ice sheets might have melted

1399
01:09:17,790 --> 01:09:15,610
back just enough to open up a corridor

1400
01:09:20,370 --> 01:09:17,800
between them so it was believed that the

1401
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:20,380
Clovis people came down through this

1402
01:09:25,500 --> 01:09:23,530
corridor and then colonized North

1403
01:09:27,480 --> 01:09:25,510
America and eventually passed through

1404
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:27,490
Central America and colonized South

1405
01:09:31,890 --> 01:09:29,770
America and in this model of course

1406
01:09:34,620 --> 01:09:31,900
there should be at least some hiatus

1407
01:09:37,350 --> 01:09:34,630
between their first arrival in North

1408
01:09:39,420 --> 01:09:37,360
America and their final appearance down

1409
01:09:40,650 --> 01:09:39,430
by Tierra del Fuego at the southern tip

1410
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:40,660
of South America

1411
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:42,730
right so this group was called the

1412
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:45,010
Clovis because of their distinctive

1413
01:09:49,590 --> 01:09:47,290
artifact right right

1414
01:09:51,539 --> 01:09:49,600
clovis for a long time was considered to

1415
01:09:54,660 --> 01:09:51,549
be the first the earliest Americans

1416
01:09:57,540 --> 01:09:54,670
right so back to dr. albert goodyear and

1417
01:10:00,060 --> 01:09:57,550
the topper site okay so he's excavating

1418
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:00,070
at a site which is one of many of about

1419
01:10:06,110 --> 01:10:02,290
fifty clovis sites that are now known

1420
01:10:10,050 --> 01:10:06,120
around north america and and north

1421
01:10:12,210 --> 01:10:10,060
mexico right so what he did and he

1422
01:10:15,420 --> 01:10:12,220
explained out well for a long time he

1423
01:10:18,030 --> 01:10:15,430
really never really looked below this

1424
01:10:20,940 --> 01:10:18,040
Clovis horizon as you would call it now

1425
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:20,950
at this Clovis horizon there is there's

1426
01:10:25,770 --> 01:10:24,130
a very distinct layer showing up at

1427
01:10:29,100 --> 01:10:25,780
about half the Clovis sites in North

1428
01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:29,110
America it's been colloquially called

1429
01:10:34,950 --> 01:10:31,450
the black matte layer and I'll come back

1430
01:10:38,250 --> 01:10:34,960
to that black mysterious and important

1431
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:38,260
black matte layer because what they

1432
01:10:43,770 --> 01:10:41,530
begin to notice was that wherever these

1433
01:10:46,770 --> 01:10:43,780
bled Clovis sites were and you had this

1434
01:10:49,140 --> 01:10:46,780
black matte layer below that black matte

1435
01:10:52,770 --> 01:10:49,150
layer you would find Clovis artifacts

1436
01:10:55,620 --> 01:10:52,780
but never above it so this became the

1437
01:10:57,050 --> 01:10:55,630
Clovis horizon well as further research

1438
01:10:59,820 --> 01:10:57,060
went on two other very interesting

1439
01:11:02,790 --> 01:10:59,830
correlations showed up one was there was

1440
01:11:05,700 --> 01:11:02,800
a massive climate spasm that occurred

1441
01:11:08,970 --> 01:11:05,710
precisely at the date of that black

1442
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:08,980
matte layer that climate spasm is called

1443
01:11:15,060 --> 01:11:11,890
the younger driest boundary or there was

1444
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:15,070
actually the pre boreal which was the

1445
01:11:19,370 --> 01:11:17,050
previous section that's the name of it

1446
01:11:22,260 --> 01:11:19,380
younger driest no I'm sorry not back up

1447
01:11:24,780 --> 01:11:22,270
balling allarod the balling allarod was

1448
01:11:28,890 --> 01:11:24,790
a period into towards the end of the Ice

1449
01:11:32,580 --> 01:11:28,900
Age when due to primarily astronomical

1450
01:11:35,130 --> 01:11:32,590
influences that deep cold of the Ice Age

1451
01:11:37,410 --> 01:11:35,140
begin to soften and it was this time

1452
01:11:39,270 --> 01:11:37,420
that the ice began to shrink back well

1453
01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:39,280
this had been going on for a couple of

1454
01:11:43,170 --> 01:11:40,960
thousand years so this was that period

1455
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:43,180
of time when they were speculating that

1456
01:11:48,990 --> 01:11:46,170
that ice-free corridor opened up well

1457
01:11:51,300 --> 01:11:49,000
what happened was is right at the end of

1458
01:11:53,730 --> 01:11:51,310
this couple of thousand years of gradual

1459
01:11:56,130 --> 01:11:53,740
warming that warming was suddenly

1460
01:11:58,650 --> 01:11:56,140
interrupted at the Bolling a lurid

1461
01:12:00,180 --> 01:11:58,660
Younger Dryas boundary which was dated

1462
01:12:01,140 --> 01:12:00,190
at twelve thousand nine hundred years

1463
01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:01,150
ago and

1464
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:04,480
was a massive rapid almost catastrophic

1465
01:12:09,899 --> 01:12:08,170
shift back into full glacial cold after

1466
01:12:14,250 --> 01:12:09,909
two to three thousand years of warming

1467
01:12:17,550 --> 01:12:14,260
right now that climate spasm coincided

1468
01:12:19,830 --> 01:12:17,560
precisely with this black matte layer

1469
01:12:22,350 --> 01:12:19,840
that marked the end of the Clovis

1470
01:12:25,050 --> 01:12:22,360
culture the other thing that correlated

1471
01:12:27,870 --> 01:12:25,060
with that was the fact that the great

1472
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:27,880
megafauna that inhabited North America

1473
01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:29,770
for tens and for hundreds of thousands

1474
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:32,800
of years basically disappeared in an

1475
01:12:36,149 --> 01:12:33,489
eyeblink

1476
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:36,159
most of that disappearance occurred

1477
01:12:41,130 --> 01:12:39,130
right at that same boundary so that

1478
01:12:45,390 --> 01:12:41,140
typically they were finding the remains

1479
01:12:49,020 --> 01:12:45,400
of the extinct megafauna below the black

1480
01:12:52,169 --> 01:12:49,030
mat but not above it so the book not the

1481
01:12:53,910 --> 01:12:52,179
black mat is dated at that magical

1482
01:12:59,520 --> 01:12:53,920
number right ten thousand five hundred

1483
01:13:01,410 --> 01:12:59,530
ten thousand 900 BC yes actually right

1484
01:13:03,630 --> 01:13:01,420
that's exactly right now this is an

1485
01:13:05,970 --> 01:13:03,640
important date yes it is we'll come back

1486
01:13:09,020 --> 01:13:05,980
to that date oh yes very important okay

1487
01:13:12,180 --> 01:13:09,030
it links links a lot of things together

1488
01:13:13,979 --> 01:13:12,190
so anyways back to Albert Goodyear with

1489
01:13:15,959 --> 01:13:13,989
with this as a context I hope that

1490
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:15,969
people didn't think I was just rambling

1491
01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:17,650
on I'm gonna get back to Albert Goodyear

1492
01:13:21,780 --> 01:13:20,110
in the topper site so he had been

1493
01:13:24,750 --> 01:13:21,790
studying the Clovis culture and it never

1494
01:13:26,010 --> 01:13:24,760
bothered to look beneath it right now at

1495
01:13:27,500 --> 01:13:26,020
the topper side he thinks that if I

1496
01:13:31,530 --> 01:13:27,510
remember right the Clovis culture

1497
01:13:34,169 --> 01:13:31,540
horizon there also at the topper site

1498
01:13:35,970 --> 01:13:34,179
along the Savannah River the black matte

1499
01:13:37,350 --> 01:13:35,980
layer doesn't really show up like it

1500
01:13:39,330 --> 01:13:37,360
does at some of the others like in the

1501
01:13:43,830 --> 01:13:39,340
southwest where it shows up real

1502
01:13:45,750 --> 01:13:43,840
conspicuously so anyways he said well

1503
01:13:47,340 --> 01:13:45,760
people kept asking him or what was below

1504
01:13:48,510 --> 01:13:47,350
it what was below it what was below it

1505
01:13:49,830 --> 01:13:48,520
and he said well he never bothered to

1506
01:13:52,229 --> 01:13:49,840
look because the assumption was that

1507
01:13:54,540 --> 01:13:52,239
there was nothing below it but then he

1508
01:13:57,300 --> 01:13:54,550
finally decided okay I just I'm gonna

1509
01:14:00,950 --> 01:13:57,310
take a look so he they dug down they

1510
01:14:03,570 --> 01:14:00,960
excavated about six feet down below the

1511
01:14:05,220 --> 01:14:03,580
Clovis layer and what do you think they

1512
01:14:07,169 --> 01:14:05,230
discovered they've discovered more

1513
01:14:10,649 --> 01:14:07,179
evidence of cultural occupation they

1514
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:10,659
discovered more fragments of tools of

1515
01:14:18,250 --> 01:14:13,730
human occupation that predated Klaus

1516
01:14:22,930 --> 01:14:18,260
this predated Clovis by nearly 40,000

1517
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:22,940
years now that's not the only site it's

1518
01:14:30,490 --> 01:14:26,930
now showing up evidence of much much

1519
01:14:32,140 --> 01:14:30,500
earlier occupation of North America but

1520
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:32,150
see this gets us back to your question

1521
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:33,770
see here's the thing you've got a

1522
01:14:38,470 --> 01:14:37,130
picture laughs around twelve thousand

1523
01:14:40,030 --> 01:14:38,480
nine hundred year Center I'll say

1524
01:14:43,380 --> 01:14:40,040
centered on twelve thousand nine hundred

1525
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:43,390
years ago there were a series of massive

1526
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:46,730
earth-shaking convulsions that jerked

1527
01:14:52,870 --> 01:14:48,890
the planet out of the deep freeze of the

1528
01:14:55,390 --> 01:14:52,880
Ice Age and eliminated six or seven

1529
01:14:58,270 --> 01:14:55,400
million cubic miles of glacial ice off

1530
01:15:00,100 --> 01:14:58,280
the continental surfaces melted it

1531
01:15:03,610 --> 01:15:00,110
rapidly returned it into the ocean

1532
01:15:06,460 --> 01:15:03,620
basins causing rapid sea-level rise and

1533
01:15:09,190 --> 01:15:06,470
we still to this day don't really

1534
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:09,200
understand what happened or what was the

1535
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:11,330
sequence of events although we're

1536
01:15:15,460 --> 01:15:13,850
getting closer to understanding because

1537
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:15,470
of things like that black matte layer

1538
01:15:21,010 --> 01:15:18,290
and the mysteries that it reveals but

1539
01:15:23,860 --> 01:15:21,020
the thing is is that here's what you've

1540
01:15:26,500 --> 01:15:23,870
got to understand when this planet

1541
01:15:29,110 --> 01:15:26,510
underwent the series of catastrophes

1542
01:15:31,510 --> 01:15:29,120
that brought the brought it out of the

1543
01:15:35,350 --> 01:15:31,520
Ice Age the epicentre of those

1544
01:15:37,390 --> 01:15:35,360
catastrophes was North America so you

1545
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:37,400
got to let that sink in North America

1546
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:39,650
for example lost the greatest percentage

1547
01:15:45,910 --> 01:15:42,410
of megafauna species South America was

1548
01:15:49,630 --> 01:15:45,920
very close behind but you see when you

1549
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:49,640
say when you think Jimmy when you say

1550
01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:51,530
elephants today what do you think of

1551
01:15:57,090 --> 01:15:53,450
what place on earth do you think of when

1552
01:16:00,760 --> 01:15:57,100
you say elephants I think of Africa

1553
01:16:04,690 --> 01:16:00,770
Africa yes or if you might even think of

1554
01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:04,700
India yes yes if we go back 15,000 years

1555
01:16:09,729 --> 01:16:07,760
ago now all elephants are called the

1556
01:16:11,890 --> 01:16:09,739
scientific term for elephants is proba

1557
01:16:14,950 --> 01:16:11,900
Citians because of their long snow right

1558
01:16:17,610 --> 01:16:14,960
if we go back into the Ice Age there

1559
01:16:21,540 --> 01:16:17,620
were four species of Provos idioms or

1560
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:21,550
elephants that lived in North America so

1561
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:23,930
that's very bizarre when you start

1562
01:16:27,339 --> 01:16:26,090
thinking about it you know you had three

1563
01:16:28,990 --> 01:16:27,349
species of man

1564
01:16:31,180 --> 01:16:29,000
she had the woolly mammoth the Colombian

1565
01:16:36,069 --> 01:16:31,190
mammoths and mammoth it's imperatore and

1566
01:16:39,069 --> 01:16:36,079
you had met the mastodons and mammoth

1567
01:16:41,859 --> 01:16:39,079
americana which was the mastodons so all

1568
01:16:44,890 --> 01:16:41,869
four species went totally extinct right

1569
01:16:47,350 --> 01:16:44,900
around the same exact time so if you

1570
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:47,360
look at the loss of species and bear

1571
01:16:51,490 --> 01:16:48,530
this in mind when you're looking at

1572
01:16:55,300 --> 01:16:51,500
species loss you're basically looking at

1573
01:16:58,149 --> 01:16:55,310
habitat loss if in certainly in the case

1574
01:17:00,939 --> 01:16:58,159
of a let's say for example a large

1575
01:17:02,770 --> 01:17:00,949
volcanic eruption might completely

1576
01:17:05,979 --> 01:17:02,780
devastate everything in the in the

1577
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:05,989
immediate region and whatever animals

1578
01:17:09,399 --> 01:17:07,489
might live there get completely wiped

1579
01:17:11,830 --> 01:17:09,409
out if it's on an island you may have a

1580
01:17:14,470 --> 01:17:11,840
case where all of the species of that I

1581
01:17:18,310 --> 01:17:14,480
of that animal on that island are

1582
01:17:21,310 --> 01:17:18,320
destroyed right well bear in mind that

1583
01:17:24,430 --> 01:17:21,320
for a species to go extinct you pretty

1584
01:17:27,189 --> 01:17:24,440
much have to you have to kill off every

1585
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:27,199
single individual of that species think

1586
01:17:32,500 --> 01:17:30,770
about the American bison going back to

1587
01:17:36,790 --> 01:17:32,510
the turn of the century there was only a

1588
01:17:39,310 --> 01:17:36,800
few hundred bison left alive the species

1589
01:17:41,530 --> 01:17:39,320
came as close to extinction as you could

1590
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:41,540
possibly go without actually becoming

1591
01:17:47,859 --> 01:17:46,130
extinct and then due to the to the you

1592
01:17:50,379 --> 01:17:47,869
know the involvement of some farsighted

1593
01:17:52,060 --> 01:17:50,389
individuals the species was saved it was

1594
01:17:53,890 --> 01:17:52,070
recovered and now of course you can go

1595
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:53,900
into the supermarket and buy bison

1596
01:17:58,600 --> 01:17:56,810
burger so the species has completely

1597
01:18:01,979 --> 01:17:58,610
come back again not to the numbers that

1598
01:18:04,450 --> 01:18:01,989
it was once was but certainly way beyond

1599
01:18:06,339 --> 01:18:04,460
the threshold of extinction that it

1600
01:18:08,140 --> 01:18:06,349
found itself at you know just over a

1601
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:08,150
hundred years ago right now here's the

1602
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:10,250
thing if we were to look back you know

1603
01:18:14,350 --> 01:18:12,290
from a thousand or 2,000 years or

1604
01:18:16,930 --> 01:18:14,360
whatever in the future we might

1605
01:18:18,790 --> 01:18:16,940
completely miss the fact that the

1606
01:18:21,850 --> 01:18:18,800
American bison came within a hair's

1607
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:21,860
breadth of extinction and unless we

1608
01:18:28,990 --> 01:18:25,010
focused right in on that exact date of

1609
01:18:32,399 --> 01:18:29,000
say late 1800 early 1900 we wouldn't see

1610
01:18:34,660 --> 01:18:32,409
it right so if but if we go back to

1611
01:18:37,689 --> 01:18:34,670
13,000 years ago what we see is that

1612
01:18:39,850 --> 01:18:37,699
half half literally half the great

1613
01:18:42,879 --> 01:18:39,860
megafauna species on earth

1614
01:18:45,700 --> 01:18:42,889
disappeared within a geological eyeblink

1615
01:18:47,500 --> 01:18:45,710
right now here's what to me where the

1616
01:18:51,339 --> 01:18:47,510
whole thing gets silly for many decades

1617
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:51,349
it was believed that humans human

1618
01:18:56,169 --> 01:18:53,770
hunters were responsible for eliminating

1619
01:18:59,709 --> 01:18:56,179
for a causing the extinction of the

1620
01:19:01,750 --> 01:18:59,719
woolly mammoths right well woolly

1621
01:19:04,299 --> 01:19:01,760
mammoth was one one species of Probus

1622
01:19:06,669 --> 01:19:04,309
ideon but then there were giant ground

1623
01:19:08,649 --> 01:19:06,679
sloths multiple species of giant ground

1624
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:08,659
sloths there were giant camels there

1625
01:19:13,780 --> 01:19:11,840
were horses there were giant armadillos

1626
01:19:16,450 --> 01:19:13,790
there was the cave bear the giant

1627
01:19:19,510 --> 01:19:16,460
short-faced bear you know the list goes

1628
01:19:21,609 --> 01:19:19,520
on and on and on elk with 12-foot antler

1629
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:21,619
spans and eight foot shoulder heights

1630
01:19:26,859 --> 01:19:24,170
all of these animals went extinct within

1631
01:19:29,379 --> 01:19:26,869
a very short period of time maybe just a

1632
01:19:31,450 --> 01:19:29,389
few centuries or even less what's

1633
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:31,460
interesting is most of those extinctions

1634
01:19:36,970 --> 01:19:34,130
occur right up beneath that black matte

1635
01:19:39,879 --> 01:19:36,980
layer so clearly that black matte layer

1636
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:39,889
signifies something important right

1637
01:19:46,450 --> 01:19:43,489
well back in 2007 Richard Firestone

1638
01:19:48,700 --> 01:19:46,460
Allen West James Kennedy and a another

1639
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:48,710
group of a scientists I think there's

1640
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:51,170
about 15 of them published a paper where

1641
01:19:55,540 --> 01:19:53,210
they had gone in and examined the black

1642
01:19:57,370 --> 01:19:55,550
matte layer and what you suppose they

1643
01:19:59,589 --> 01:19:57,380
found what they found was the

1644
01:20:01,120 --> 01:19:59,599
fingerprints of a cosmic event they

1645
01:20:03,419 --> 01:20:01,130
found nano diamonds they found

1646
01:20:07,810 --> 01:20:03,429
microspheres they found magnetic grains

1647
01:20:12,839 --> 01:20:07,820
the and in in the interim since 2007

1648
01:20:15,549 --> 01:20:12,849
since the interceding 11 years multiple

1649
01:20:18,129 --> 01:20:15,559
amounts of other evidence have been have

1650
01:20:20,709 --> 01:20:18,139
been found that confirms overwhelmingly

1651
01:20:24,100 --> 01:20:20,719
that there's something cosmic happened

1652
01:20:25,780 --> 01:20:24,110
now exactly what it was I don't know I

1653
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:25,790
don't think they know I don't think that

1654
01:20:30,100 --> 01:20:28,250
they're willing to say definitively oh

1655
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:30,110
it was this or that because there's

1656
01:20:33,970 --> 01:20:32,090
still a lot of mysterious aspects to

1657
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:33,980
this whole event that happened what we

1658
01:20:38,350 --> 01:20:36,530
bring would well let me I just have to

1659
01:20:42,910 --> 01:20:38,360
ask you can answer quickly what would

1660
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:42,920
what would add diamonds to that mix lots

1661
01:20:47,109 --> 01:20:45,770
of heat and pressure tremendous but let

1662
01:20:49,990 --> 01:20:47,119
me tell you where where you find nano

1663
01:20:53,290 --> 01:20:50,000
diamonds you find them in nature in two

1664
01:20:55,660 --> 01:20:53,300
places you find them in meteorites

1665
01:20:59,260 --> 01:20:55,670
and you find them in confirmed in

1666
01:21:02,590 --> 01:20:59,270
embedded in Iraq in confirmed meteorite

1667
01:21:04,780 --> 01:21:02,600
or asteroid impact craters right

1668
01:21:07,570 --> 01:21:04,790
the other place where nano diamonds have

1669
01:21:08,710 --> 01:21:07,580
been found is in the testing sites of

1670
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:08,720
nuclear weapons

1671
01:21:13,150 --> 01:21:11,210
hmm under the heat and pressure of a

1672
01:21:16,330 --> 01:21:13,160
nuclear weapon explosion like one

1673
01:21:17,830 --> 01:21:16,340
Megaton bomb exploding will create

1674
01:21:20,470 --> 01:21:17,840
enough heat and pressure that it

1675
01:21:23,140 --> 01:21:20,480
produces billions of these very tiny

1676
01:21:25,510 --> 01:21:23,150
nano diamonds it only show up under like

1677
01:21:28,540 --> 01:21:25,520
with electron microscopy but they're

1678
01:21:30,340 --> 01:21:28,550
extremely small and so those were the

1679
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:30,350
three places that nano diamonds were

1680
01:21:34,540 --> 01:21:32,930
known to have come from right so now

1681
01:21:36,850 --> 01:21:34,550
what happens they find a layer of nano

1682
01:21:39,690 --> 01:21:36,860
diamonds at the base of the black mat

1683
01:21:43,390 --> 01:21:39,700
layer so what does that mean well it

1684
01:21:46,090 --> 01:21:43,400
obviously means some kind of some kind

1685
01:21:48,790 --> 01:21:46,100
of an event that involved tremendously

1686
01:21:54,900 --> 01:21:48,800
tremendous pressure now I have to say

1687
01:21:58,090 --> 01:21:54,910
that this idea was was attacked

1688
01:22:01,180 --> 01:21:58,100
vociferously by by a group of critics

1689
01:22:03,910 --> 01:22:01,190
that appointed themselves I would think

1690
01:22:06,250 --> 01:22:03,920
as inquisitors to suppress this heresy

1691
01:22:09,090 --> 01:22:06,260
that had come along that now potentially

1692
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:09,100
would overturn the idea that humans were

1693
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:11,330
responsible for the mass extinction

1694
01:22:20,350 --> 01:22:14,210
because many of the proponents or the

1695
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:20,360
the the most severe critics of a cosmic

1696
01:22:25,660 --> 01:22:23,090
event were proponents of the human

1697
01:22:28,060 --> 01:22:25,670
caused a human cause permit the mass

1698
01:22:29,770 --> 01:22:28,070
extinction so they have been the ones

1699
01:22:32,170 --> 01:22:29,780
who have been primarily in the forefront

1700
01:22:35,290 --> 01:22:32,180
of attacking it but what has happened is

1701
01:22:37,450 --> 01:22:35,300
the original group of 15 has grown to be

1702
01:22:40,330 --> 01:22:37,460
over 50 scientists internationally now

1703
01:22:43,180 --> 01:22:40,340
many of them who came originally as

1704
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:43,190
critics themselves but began to look at

1705
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:45,410
the evidence and became converts and

1706
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:48,050
said yes the evidence is here we see the

1707
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:49,970
nano diamonds you know we've seen the

1708
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:53,570
micro spiros we've now found an iridium

1709
01:22:57,910 --> 01:22:55,970
spike we found a platinum spike right at

1710
01:23:00,220 --> 01:22:57,920
twelve thousand nine hundred in the

1711
01:23:02,620 --> 01:23:00,230
Greenland ice sheet now how do you get

1712
01:23:04,450 --> 01:23:02,630
all that platinum there is a really

1713
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:04,460
interesting question but again platinum

1714
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:06,449
is one of the platinum group metal

1715
01:23:12,979 --> 01:23:09,690
along with iridium and and others

1716
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:12,989
ruthenium and others that basically is

1717
01:23:20,390 --> 01:23:17,010
delivered to earth via a cosmic source

1718
01:23:23,060 --> 01:23:20,400
such as comets or asteroids so clearly

1719
01:23:24,949 --> 01:23:23,070
the signature of something is there but

1720
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:24,959
what it is it's like I said at this

1721
01:23:29,719 --> 01:23:26,610
point is still unclear because there's

1722
01:23:31,339 --> 01:23:29,729
many dimensions to it and the whole I'll

1723
01:23:33,259 --> 01:23:31,349
tell you Jimmy the whole phenomena is

1724
01:23:36,109 --> 01:23:33,269
really bizarre and it's going to take a

1725
01:23:38,989 --> 01:23:36,119
while I think to really come to grips

1726
01:23:40,310 --> 01:23:38,999
with what really happened but it clearly

1727
01:23:42,319 --> 01:23:40,320
involved some kind of interaction

1728
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:42,329
between the earth and the cosmos of that

1729
01:23:47,299 --> 01:23:44,610
there can be no doubt the epicenter of

1730
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:47,309
this of this catastrophe was North

1731
01:23:52,459 --> 01:23:50,489
America so basically what the evidence

1732
01:23:55,729 --> 01:23:52,469
of the rapid disappearance of the Clovis

1733
01:23:57,859 --> 01:23:55,739
culture would suggest is that whatever

1734
01:24:01,100 --> 01:23:57,869
was happening here culturally was pretty

1735
01:24:05,569 --> 01:24:01,110
much erased and so the next 10,000 years

1736
01:24:10,250 --> 01:24:05,579
was basically surviving populations of

1737
01:24:14,239 --> 01:24:10,260
animals and societies recolonizing the

1738
01:24:16,850 --> 01:24:14,249
earth which had been basically wiped out

1739
01:24:19,819 --> 01:24:16,860
on many fronts North and South America

1740
01:24:21,709 --> 01:24:19,829
were the most severely affected North

1741
01:24:23,989 --> 01:24:21,719
America lost about three-quarters of its

1742
01:24:27,500 --> 01:24:23,999
megafauna species and South America was

1743
01:24:30,279 --> 01:24:27,510
was very close behind Eurasia lost about

1744
01:24:34,370 --> 01:24:30,289
one-third of its megafauna species

1745
01:24:38,180 --> 01:24:34,380
Africa only lost about 10% so Africa

1746
01:24:40,790 --> 01:24:38,190
apparently was in a zone that was not

1747
01:24:43,669 --> 01:24:40,800
severely affected as other areas because

1748
01:24:46,879 --> 01:24:43,679
most of the large animals in Africa

1749
01:24:48,979 --> 01:24:46,889
today are Pleistocene mammals so they

1750
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:48,989
existed back during the Ice Age but

1751
01:24:54,379 --> 01:24:51,090
whereas North America and South America

1752
01:24:57,649 --> 01:24:54,389
lost their mega mammals or most of them

1753
01:25:00,199 --> 01:24:57,659
Africa preserved most events so I think

1754
01:25:02,959 --> 01:25:00,209
that clearly implies that Africa at

1755
01:25:06,399 --> 01:25:02,969
least sections of Africa were a safe

1756
01:25:08,750 --> 01:25:06,409
haven of sorts now when you look at

1757
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:08,760
megafauna species like what you see it

1758
01:25:13,009 --> 01:25:10,530
happening at the end of the last ice age

1759
01:25:15,500 --> 01:25:13,019
you basically see the top of the food

1760
01:25:17,660 --> 01:25:15,510
chain being decapitated right

1761
01:25:19,580 --> 01:25:17,670
it's the largest animals that are the

1762
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:19,590
motion dramatically affected by

1763
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:23,010
these changes and that makes sense when

1764
01:25:27,140 --> 01:25:25,170
you think about the fact that a large

1765
01:25:30,229 --> 01:25:27,150
animal requires a whole lot more food

1766
01:25:31,879 --> 01:25:30,239
you know if you got an elephant that

1767
01:25:34,189 --> 01:25:31,889
weighs five or six tons they need a

1768
01:25:35,660 --> 01:25:34,199
whole lot more food than a rabbit

1769
01:25:39,709 --> 01:25:35,670
obviously right

1770
01:25:42,410 --> 01:25:39,719
so if you and they also have longer

1771
01:25:44,180 --> 01:25:42,420
times that they're young is dependant

1772
01:25:46,550 --> 01:25:44,190
before the young is old enough to

1773
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:46,560
survive on its own right they also have

1774
01:25:51,410 --> 01:25:48,570
longer gestation times and longer

1775
01:25:53,959 --> 01:25:51,420
turnover times between generations so

1776
01:25:57,500 --> 01:25:53,969
all of those factors are going to be

1777
01:25:59,629 --> 01:25:57,510
affected by habitat loss if something

1778
01:26:03,500 --> 01:25:59,639
disrupts the food supply if there's a

1779
01:26:05,510 --> 01:26:03,510
severe climate change that decimates

1780
01:26:08,089 --> 01:26:05,520
forest species you know mastodons were

1781
01:26:10,370 --> 01:26:08,099
browsers they like to browse on trees

1782
01:26:13,010 --> 01:26:10,380
and forests well the forests in the

1783
01:26:15,500 --> 01:26:13,020
south southeastern United States that

1784
01:26:17,510 --> 01:26:15,510
they were browsing on 15,000 years ago

1785
01:26:20,330 --> 01:26:17,520
are the kind of forests that you now

1786
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:20,340
find in southern Canada boreal forests

1787
01:26:24,910 --> 01:26:22,530
northern forests for is consisting of

1788
01:26:28,550 --> 01:26:24,920
spruce trees large trees alder trees

1789
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:28,560
that don't exist in the South now but

1790
01:26:32,620 --> 01:26:30,090
you had a species that was adopted

1791
01:26:35,930 --> 01:26:32,630
adapted to eating that kind of

1792
01:26:37,459 --> 01:26:35,940
particular food and then suddenly those

1793
01:26:42,140 --> 01:26:37,469
forests get completely and utterly

1794
01:26:43,850 --> 01:26:42,150
decimated which appears did happen they

1795
01:26:46,580 --> 01:26:43,860
would starve to death and only a million

1796
01:26:49,550 --> 01:26:46,590
millennium or two later did we see that

1797
01:26:50,959 --> 01:26:49,560
the kind of the pine dominated for us

1798
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:50,969
that we now see in the southeast

1799
01:26:55,370 --> 01:26:53,610
beginning to show up under a completely

1800
01:26:58,189 --> 01:26:55,380
different kind of an ecosystem that

1801
01:27:01,430 --> 01:26:58,199
emerged in the aftermath of the Ice Age

1802
01:27:04,250 --> 01:27:01,440
we've got about two minutes so give me

1803
01:27:07,459 --> 01:27:04,260
the quick answer here if you were a

1804
01:27:08,770 --> 01:27:07,469
betting man what do you think that it

1805
01:27:13,570 --> 01:27:08,780
was I understand you're suggesting

1806
01:27:18,020 --> 01:27:13,580
Kosmic but I mean what would and and

1807
01:27:20,810 --> 01:27:18,030
what else could have caused it a it's a

1808
01:27:23,930 --> 01:27:20,820
it's a fascinating thing what could it

1809
01:27:27,050 --> 01:27:23,940
have been it's too big of an event right

1810
01:27:29,899 --> 01:27:27,060
it's not small whatever it is and it and

1811
01:27:32,450 --> 01:27:29,909
it was it was global too as well right

1812
01:27:32,730 --> 01:27:32,460
Randall oh yeah there was I don't think

1813
01:27:34,380 --> 01:27:32,740
it

1814
01:27:36,810 --> 01:27:34,390
any place on the globe that wasn't

1815
01:27:39,660 --> 01:27:36,820
affected to one extent or another right

1816
01:27:41,670 --> 01:27:39,670
right obviously just see sea level rise

1817
01:27:43,500 --> 01:27:41,680
alone was global so no matter where you

1818
01:27:46,500 --> 01:27:43,510
lived on the earth if you were on some

1819
01:27:49,860 --> 01:27:46,510
coastline you were rapidly displaced by

1820
01:27:52,340 --> 01:27:49,870
rapid sea level rise but you have to

1821
01:27:55,170 --> 01:27:52,350
understand it was I think it was like

1822
01:27:58,140 --> 01:27:55,180
the end of the Ice Age was a drama in

1823
01:28:00,090 --> 01:27:58,150
three acts acts number one was at about

1824
01:28:03,630 --> 01:28:00,100
fourteen thousand six hundred years ago

1825
01:28:05,790 --> 01:28:03,640
and this was the first huge melting of

1826
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:05,800
the ice sheet and then that was followed

1827
01:28:09,810 --> 01:28:08,410
by a more orderly returned you know like

1828
01:28:11,940 --> 01:28:09,820
I was describing earlier with the

1829
01:28:13,710 --> 01:28:11,950
warming climate and then that got

1830
01:28:15,990 --> 01:28:13,720
interrupted at about twelve thousand

1831
01:28:18,330 --> 01:28:16,000
nine hundred with the onset of the

1832
01:28:21,420 --> 01:28:18,340
Younger Dryas and all of the attendant

1833
01:28:23,220 --> 01:28:21,430
phenomena associated with that the

1834
01:28:25,260 --> 01:28:23,230
younger driest lasted about thirteen

1835
01:28:27,950 --> 01:28:25,270
hundred years and ended about eleven

1836
01:28:31,140 --> 01:28:27,960
thousand six hundred there was a second

1837
01:28:33,090 --> 01:28:31,150
giant meltwater spike introduced into

1838
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:33,100
the ocean and it was the second

1839
01:28:39,900 --> 01:28:36,850
meltwater spike at eleven six that's

1840
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:39,910
called meltwater pulse one B that

1841
01:28:43,950 --> 01:28:41,650
essentially marked the end of the Ice

1842
01:28:46,550 --> 01:28:43,960
Age March the end of the two and a half

1843
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:46,560
million year Pleistocene epoch in the

1844
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:49,810
beginning of the modern geologic epoch

1845
01:28:56,010 --> 01:28:52,330
which is called the Holocene right so

1846
01:28:58,770 --> 01:28:56,020
again the the termination of the former

1847
01:29:00,990 --> 01:28:58,780
world was a drama in three acts now

1848
01:29:03,090 --> 01:29:01,000
what's it the same trigger each one I

1849
01:29:06,270 --> 01:29:03,100
don't think necessarily that it was I

1850
01:29:08,820 --> 01:29:06,280
think that clearly the 12,900 event was

1851
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:08,830
probably the encounter between Earth and

1852
01:29:15,750 --> 01:29:11,890
a large disintegrating comet that would

1853
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:15,760
be my primary candidate to satisfy most

1854
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:19,570
of the evidence that we find there what

1855
01:29:25,110 --> 01:29:22,330
though happened at 11600 what happened

1856
01:29:27,060 --> 01:29:25,120
at 14,600 I don't know you know I I

1857
01:29:28,530 --> 01:29:27,070
might go along with Robert Schoch on

1858
01:29:30,990 --> 01:29:28,540
that that we could be looking at

1859
01:29:33,030 --> 01:29:31,000
something involving the Sun let's take

1860
01:29:34,530 --> 01:29:33,040
we're not convinced right yeah that

1861
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:34,540
would be a good point to take a break

1862
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:36,250
yeah let's take a break right there and

1863
01:29:41,370 --> 01:29:38,410
we'll pick up where we are leaving off

1864
01:29:44,100 --> 01:29:41,380
our guest tonight Randall Carlson that's

1865
01:29:45,450 --> 01:29:44,110
right it's the conversation right here

1866
01:29:46,890 --> 01:29:45,460
on fade to black

1867
01:29:48,450 --> 01:29:46,900
I'm your host Jimmy Church we'll be

1868
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:48,460
right back after this short break stay

1869
01:30:07,820 --> 01:29:58,000
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1870
01:30:15,300 --> 01:30:11,030
way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

1871
01:30:17,340 --> 01:30:15,310
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1872
01:30:19,890 --> 01:30:17,350
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1873
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listening to Jimmy Church this is a

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all right welcome back fade to black

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I'm your host Tim a church our guest

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tonight Randall Carlson tomorrow night

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is a tonight open lines all night long

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premiering with Teresa and Aris Devine

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frequency on the airwaves let's pick up

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where we left off Randall because he

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brought up Robert Schoch and his

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suggestion that it could have been

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something possibly from the Sun and and

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I anything is possible right but there's

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something else here and you brought it

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up earlier it's that magic number that

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keeps popping up which not only is that

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year you know 10,500 BC and what has

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been presented with the Giza Plateau and

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shock and John Anthony's was there great

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work but then you have other things too

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as well gobekli tepe you have the

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alignments of the the stars and now we

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have these events over here in North

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America this date is significant around

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this planet what do you think is going

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on well you know if you go back and

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reread a grain Hancock's book

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fingerprints of the Gods he points this

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date out maybe he talked by a few

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hundred years which you know the

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evidence that was available in mid 1990s

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you know you probably couldn't get it

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greater resolution and that I think

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whether he put it in 12 five or 12 nine

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it really doesn't matter but he

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basically interpreted a lot of the

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ancient systems that we've inherited

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some of the Egyptian stuff particularly

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like the alignment of the Sphinx with

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the looking at the horizon I would

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recommend for people to go back and

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reread that book because basically 10

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points that date because of his reading

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of the ancient archives of information

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and that was you know like basically 21

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23 22 23 years ago so at the time he

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wasn't quite sure what to what attribute

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that catastrophe but he definitely

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believed that it was pointing

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some great catastrophe that happened and

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he got a lot of flack for that from

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people you know in the professional

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community in the scientific community

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who had basically given no thought to it

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really didn't know anything about it but

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we're just operating primarily under

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assumptions of how things happen how

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things change that were left over

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essentially really from the late 19th

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century which formed the the dogma of

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all earth science studies through most

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of the 20th century which was this

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strict gradualism that we could account

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for everything that we see in the world

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today by invoking one grain of sand and

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one drop of water at a time and given

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enough hundreds of millions of years we

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could accomplish anything well that's

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the paradigm that dominated our thinking

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of earth change for most of the 20th

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century and of course that now has been

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completely overturned it still has its

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defenders who want to who don't

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basically I think are intellectually

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afraid to acknowledge the implications

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of catastrophism what that might mean

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for life history what that might mean

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01:38:01,660 --> 01:37:58,340
for the history of civilization on this

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planet but definitely Graham was ahead

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of his time with that and you know now

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01:38:10,210 --> 01:38:06,940
what brought him back onboard with this

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you know an active engagement was the

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work of Firestone West Kennet and others

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01:38:17,650 --> 01:38:15,560
that came out in 2007 that were

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essentially saying yeah we now have

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evidence that there was something

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perhaps a cosmic comet or an asteroid

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impact that occurred right on this date

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which you know he had identified over 20

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years before and I might say that I

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myself did I gave a series of lectures

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at Warren Wilson College in North

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Carolina in 1996 right described the

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same date and this was before I had read

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01:38:42,490 --> 01:38:40,280
fingerprints of the gods also so I had

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01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:42,500
come upon the same date independently of

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Graham and had concluded that all of

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01:38:52,870 --> 01:38:49,430
this ancient evidence and knowledge was

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01:38:55,440 --> 01:38:52,880
pointing to that date at 12,900 and this

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01:38:58,330 --> 01:38:55,450
you know came a lot of this came from

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01:39:02,550 --> 01:38:58,340
reading works like Mirchi a Ilya

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01:39:05,140 --> 01:39:02,560
the hamlets mill which basically was

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01:39:07,740 --> 01:39:05,150
showing how the concept that the great

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01:39:11,020 --> 01:39:07,750
year was one of the most fundamental

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models of reality of the ancient world

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and how this particular model of reality

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01:39:20,379 --> 01:39:17,179
came down to us and essentially it's

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based upon the progression of the vernal

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equinox through the constellations of

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the stars and the idea that that the

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01:39:31,810 --> 01:39:28,849
ancient cultures utilize the backdrop of

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01:39:35,020 --> 01:39:31,820
the fixed stars to superimpose or

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juxtapose this knowledge of these great

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01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:37,780
temporal changes to the planet because

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01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:40,130
unlike anything that happens down here

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01:39:46,540 --> 01:39:44,090
below the changes you know anybody today

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01:39:49,030 --> 01:39:46,550
something transported back three or four

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01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:49,040
thousand five thousand years ago would

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01:39:54,490 --> 01:39:51,770
recognize basically the same sky as we

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01:39:56,740 --> 01:39:54,500
see today some subtle differences but

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01:40:00,040 --> 01:39:56,750
you would still recognize the Big Dipper

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01:40:02,140 --> 01:40:00,050
you would still recognize a Ryan etc now

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01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:02,150
the North Star wouldn't be as aligned

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01:40:06,370 --> 01:40:04,010
with the North Pole as it is but that's

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because of that processional motion of

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the Earth's axis right but so it was in

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01:40:16,270 --> 01:40:11,960
Hamlet's mill it came out 1969 that the

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01:40:19,330 --> 01:40:16,280
author's connected this idea of the

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01:40:21,700 --> 01:40:19,340
changing cycles of world ages with with

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01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:21,710
the rising the catastrophic rise and

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01:40:28,330 --> 01:40:25,010
fall of these great planetary changes

2080
01:40:30,100 --> 01:40:28,340
and they perhaps interpreted it more in

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01:40:31,959 --> 01:40:30,110
figurative terms rather than literal

2082
01:40:34,330 --> 01:40:31,969
terms but they certainly laid the

2083
01:40:37,419 --> 01:40:34,340
groundwork for making this correlation

2084
01:40:39,550 --> 01:40:37,429
between this ancient model which is

2085
01:40:42,129 --> 01:40:39,560
which is basically the wheel of the

2086
01:40:44,020 --> 01:40:42,139
zodiac and the motion of the vernal

2087
01:40:46,930 --> 01:40:44,030
equinox through the twelve

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01:40:50,229 --> 01:40:46,940
constellations that form the zodiacal

2089
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:50,239
wheel and what happens during the each

2090
01:40:58,359 --> 01:40:54,290
of those of that transiting equinox deal

2091
01:41:01,390 --> 01:40:58,369
alignment and so because of that what

2092
01:41:03,820 --> 01:41:01,400
seems like grant was pointing out that

2093
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:03,830
it seemed like they kept emphasizing the

2094
01:41:08,919 --> 01:41:06,050
cusps of Leo the cusps of Leo

2095
01:41:11,670 --> 01:41:08,929
well the vernal equinox transcended out

2096
01:41:14,460 --> 01:41:11,680
of the constellation of Virgo

2097
01:41:16,110 --> 01:41:14,470
into the constellation of Leo right at

2098
01:41:20,730 --> 01:41:16,120
twelve thousand nine hundred years ago

2099
01:41:23,430 --> 01:41:20,740
so the Sphinx you know which in Egypt

2100
01:41:25,610 --> 01:41:23,440
has many symbolic connotations but I

2101
01:41:30,180 --> 01:41:25,620
think one of the most important is this

2102
01:41:32,580 --> 01:41:30,190
correlation of human and lion and if you

2103
01:41:36,900 --> 01:41:32,590
look at the athlete the axis of the

2104
01:41:39,330 --> 01:41:36,910
equinoctial axis it is now in the same

2105
01:41:42,330 --> 01:41:39,340
alignment that it was thirteen thousand

2106
01:41:44,340 --> 01:41:42,340
years ago except reversed so in other

2107
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:44,350
words thirteen thousand years ago

2108
01:41:49,350 --> 01:41:47,010
the vernal equinox was moving out of

2109
01:41:52,050 --> 01:41:49,360
Virgo into leo

2110
01:41:55,110 --> 01:41:52,060
whereas now the vernal equinox is moving

2111
01:41:58,050 --> 01:41:55,120
out of Pisces into Aquarius so Aquarius

2112
01:42:01,020 --> 01:41:58,060
and Leo the sign of the man and the sign

2113
01:42:03,930 --> 01:42:01,030
of the lion stand on opposite sides of

2114
01:42:06,090 --> 01:42:03,940
the zodiac to each other so basically

2115
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:06,100
what we're seeing is one half cycle of

2116
01:42:13,650 --> 01:42:11,050
the so-called Great year which enhancers

2117
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:13,660
of Hamlet's Mill correlated with this

2118
01:42:19,620 --> 01:42:16,330
processional cycle which takes right

2119
01:42:22,290 --> 01:42:19,630
around 26,000 years or to use the

2120
01:42:25,050 --> 01:42:22,300
traditional number twenty five thousand

2121
01:42:27,570 --> 01:42:25,060
nine hundred and twenty years and half

2122
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:27,580
of that is twelve thousand nine hundred

2123
01:42:34,530 --> 01:42:31,090
and sixty so what they did was they set

2124
01:42:37,500 --> 01:42:34,540
up a model of a global change that there

2125
01:42:39,660 --> 01:42:37,510
were four major points of discontinuity

2126
01:42:42,690 --> 01:42:39,670
within this wheel and they were

2127
01:42:45,030 --> 01:42:42,700
associated with the the passage of the

2128
01:42:47,430 --> 01:42:45,040
vernal equinox through Aquarius through

2129
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:47,440
Leo through Scorpio and through Taurus

2130
01:42:53,930 --> 01:42:50,530
the four fixed signs of the zodiac which

2131
01:42:59,510 --> 01:42:53,940
connect like so for example when the

2132
01:43:03,540 --> 01:42:59,520
equinoctial line is connecting the the

2133
01:43:06,450 --> 01:43:03,550
Aquarius Leo axis the soul station line

2134
01:43:09,210 --> 01:43:06,460
is connecting the Scorpio Taurus axis

2135
01:43:11,670 --> 01:43:09,220
and that great cross cosmic cross is

2136
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:11,680
rotating so that it clicks into one of

2137
01:43:16,650 --> 01:43:14,290
these signs every average six thousand

2138
01:43:18,810 --> 01:43:16,660
four hundred and eighty years so one of

2139
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:18,820
the things that I've done in for people

2140
01:43:22,710 --> 01:43:20,530
to go I would recommend to go to the

2141
01:43:25,169 --> 01:43:22,720
sacred geometry international website

2142
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:25,179
because Cameron Wiltshire has done some

2143
01:43:30,319 --> 01:43:27,610
awesome graphics for to help people

2144
01:43:32,759 --> 01:43:30,329
visualize what I'm talking about and

2145
01:43:35,810 --> 01:43:32,769
basically what it's showing is that

2146
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:35,820
there's a high correlation of

2147
01:43:41,250 --> 01:43:38,170
discontinuous events within the natural

2148
01:43:45,569 --> 01:43:41,260
continuum of change that are associated

2149
01:43:47,580 --> 01:43:45,579
with these four signs and the most or I

2150
01:43:49,919 --> 01:43:47,590
should say constellations because we're

2151
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:49,929
talking constellations here not signs

2152
01:43:55,319 --> 01:43:52,570
for those who are either astronomically

2153
01:43:58,979 --> 01:43:55,329
or astrologically oriented we're talking

2154
01:44:00,419 --> 01:43:58,989
about the constellations right so if we

2155
01:44:03,060 --> 01:44:00,429
go back six thousand four hundred eighty

2156
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:03,070
years ago between 6,000 and six thousand

2157
01:44:08,069 --> 01:44:05,050
four hundred and eighty as the vernal

2158
01:44:11,189 --> 01:44:08,079
equinox was moving into Taurus we see a

2159
01:44:13,919 --> 01:44:11,199
major global change and what happened

2160
01:44:17,339 --> 01:44:13,929
was it's coming out of the ice age as

2161
01:44:19,379 --> 01:44:17,349
the age of Leo came to an end and we

2162
01:44:22,199 --> 01:44:19,389
moved into the age of cancer what we see

2163
01:44:24,929 --> 01:44:22,209
happening is that the climate became

2164
01:44:27,089 --> 01:44:24,939
very warm climatologist who have studied

2165
01:44:30,359 --> 01:44:27,099
this period have called the the three or

2166
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:30,369
four thousand year period post immediate

2167
01:44:36,870 --> 01:44:33,489
post ice age as the climatic optimum

2168
01:44:40,890 --> 01:44:36,880
because this was the time when actually

2169
01:44:43,469 --> 01:44:40,900
climate was in fact in spite of a lot of

2170
01:44:46,109 --> 01:44:43,479
the propaganda climate was warmer than

2171
01:44:48,209 --> 01:44:46,119
that it is now sea levels might have

2172
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:48,219
been up to three to six feet higher

2173
01:44:54,390 --> 01:44:52,050
according to some studies and there were

2174
01:44:58,049 --> 01:44:54,400
farming communities that formed at

2175
01:45:00,330 --> 01:44:58,059
10,000 feet above sea level and this is

2176
01:45:02,609 --> 01:45:00,340
the time that I often referred to as the

2177
01:45:04,469 --> 01:45:02,619
age of the goddess because it was during

2178
01:45:08,779 --> 01:45:04,479
this time when these hunter-gatherer

2179
01:45:11,250 --> 01:45:08,789
nomadic cultures that had survived the

2180
01:45:16,500 --> 01:45:11,260
catastrophic changes that ended the Ice

2181
01:45:20,399 --> 01:45:16,510
Age moved into a an eco zone which had

2182
01:45:22,350 --> 01:45:20,409
basically been depopulated now nature if

2183
01:45:24,419 --> 01:45:22,360
you study these great catastrophes

2184
01:45:27,870 --> 01:45:24,429
whether it's in the aftermath of

2185
01:45:29,729 --> 01:45:27,880
hurricanes or volcanic eruptions or even

2186
01:45:31,529 --> 01:45:29,739
asteroid impacts and that sort of thing

2187
01:45:34,469 --> 01:45:31,539
what you discover is that the

2188
01:45:38,459 --> 01:45:34,479
recuperative powers of nature are

2189
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:38,469
phenomenal and I visited a nobody two

2190
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:39,010
years ago

2191
01:45:45,510 --> 01:45:42,130
visited Mount st. Helens to investigate

2192
01:45:49,290 --> 01:45:45,520
the recovery you know in in roughly

2193
01:45:51,450 --> 01:45:49,300
three decades after the great eruptions

2194
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:51,460
created a lunar landscape over about 200

2195
01:45:57,780 --> 01:45:54,730
square miles right and you could see how

2196
01:46:01,260 --> 01:45:57,790
rapidly nature was reclaiming that

2197
01:46:03,630 --> 01:46:01,270
devastated landscape and in another

2198
01:46:04,980 --> 01:46:03,640
three or four centuries that mountain

2199
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:04,990
the whole mountain should be pretty much

2200
01:46:12,270 --> 01:46:08,770
reforested right so excuse me my point

2201
01:46:14,670 --> 01:46:12,280
here is that Nature has the ability to

2202
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:14,680
recover from the catastrophic and

2203
01:46:21,810 --> 01:46:18,010
traumatic events quite rapidly probably

2204
01:46:24,690 --> 01:46:21,820
faster than a decimated human culture

2205
01:46:26,090 --> 01:46:24,700
does and so in the aftermath like they

2206
01:46:28,470 --> 01:46:26,100
described earlier Clovis culture

2207
01:46:31,190 --> 01:46:28,480
apparently almost completely disappeared

2208
01:46:34,050 --> 01:46:31,200
from North America right right so a

2209
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:34,060
thousand years later another culture

2210
01:46:38,190 --> 01:46:36,010
begins to appear they're so different

2211
01:46:40,020 --> 01:46:38,200
distinctively different that they're

2212
01:46:41,970 --> 01:46:40,030
given a different name by archeologists

2213
01:46:43,500 --> 01:46:41,980
they're called the Folsom culture who

2214
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:43,510
are the Folsom culture well nobody knows

2215
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:46,330
exactly where they came from interesting

2216
01:46:50,430 --> 01:46:48,010
genetic studies that are beginning to

2217
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:50,440
reveal some very interesting information

2218
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:52,930
about the dispersal of people around the

2219
01:46:56,940 --> 01:46:55,090
globe but it gets back to this question

2220
01:46:58,440 --> 01:46:56,950
that you brought up earlier you see it's

2221
01:47:02,280 --> 01:46:58,450
almost like when you look at Mount st.

2222
01:47:06,860 --> 01:47:02,290
Helens what you see there is what the

2223
01:47:11,670 --> 01:47:06,870
ecologist calls a refugium a refugium is

2224
01:47:15,210 --> 01:47:11,680
somewhere where species were some little

2225
01:47:18,090 --> 01:47:15,220
enclave of nature manages to survive by

2226
01:47:18,630 --> 01:47:18,100
whatever reason you know whatever luck

2227
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:18,640
of the draw

2228
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:22,090
but these refugium are the places from

2229
01:47:27,660 --> 01:47:25,210
which nature begins to recolonize these

2230
01:47:30,210 --> 01:47:27,670
devastated landscapes typically first

2231
01:47:32,730 --> 01:47:30,220
thing it appears in the volcanic ash is

2232
01:47:35,070 --> 01:47:32,740
a generation of ferns and then you have

2233
01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:35,080
a few generation of ferns they grow up

2234
01:47:39,450 --> 01:47:37,330
they live their lifecycle but they

2235
01:47:42,180 --> 01:47:39,460
return to the soul returned to the ash

2236
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:42,190
and they help begin to build the layer

2237
01:47:49,470 --> 01:47:46,570
of soil that can now support the more

2238
01:47:51,540 --> 01:47:49,480
advanced species and so we have to

2239
01:47:52,810 --> 01:47:51,550
understand what happened at the end of

2240
01:47:54,820 --> 01:47:52,820
the last ice age was

2241
01:47:57,250 --> 01:47:54,830
that there were large portions of the

2242
01:47:59,560 --> 01:47:57,260
planetary surface that were basically

2243
01:48:03,400 --> 01:47:59,570
destroyed that were basically erased and

2244
01:48:05,440 --> 01:48:03,410
so when we look at the historical

2245
01:48:07,110 --> 01:48:05,450
discovery of America I think that what

2246
01:48:09,780 --> 01:48:07,120
we're really doing is looking at the

2247
01:48:12,340 --> 01:48:09,790
rediscovery of America the

2248
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:12,350
recolonization it took nearly ten

2249
01:48:18,430 --> 01:48:15,290
thousand years for for humans to

2250
01:48:21,550 --> 01:48:18,440
actually return to North America in mass

2251
01:48:23,830 --> 01:48:21,560
and in the survivors in North America

2252
01:48:27,550 --> 01:48:23,840
Senor he gets to another interesting

2253
01:48:29,110 --> 01:48:27,560
idea which I think would be probably

2254
01:48:30,970 --> 01:48:29,120
beyond our conversation tonight when you

2255
01:48:33,430 --> 01:48:30,980
look at this evidence but I would I

2256
01:48:36,130 --> 01:48:33,440
would suggest that there's that the

2257
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:36,140
human survivors of these catastrophes

2258
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:39,050
that convulsed the earth at the end of

2259
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:41,210
the last ice age were two types there

2260
01:48:47,290 --> 01:48:44,690
were two categories one was those people

2261
01:48:49,330 --> 01:48:47,300
who survived just by being in the right

2262
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:49,340
place at the right time by the luck of

2263
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:51,530
the draw right there was another group

2264
01:48:57,460 --> 01:48:55,010
that survived because they prepared

2265
01:49:01,560 --> 01:48:57,470
because they knew something was coming

2266
01:49:04,750 --> 01:49:01,570
they put the the pieces in place to

2267
01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:04,760
ensure the high probability of their

2268
01:49:11,860 --> 01:49:08,330
survival and retaining some degree of

2269
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:11,870
cultural knowledge no you jump in right

2270
01:49:17,350 --> 01:49:14,210
there hold on a second because this is a

2271
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:17,360
very interesting point is there evidence

2272
01:49:24,970 --> 01:49:22,730
of high technology advanced culture that

2273
01:49:27,940 --> 01:49:24,980
predated everything here in the United

2274
01:49:30,790 --> 01:49:27,950
States and North America not that I know

2275
01:49:33,220 --> 01:49:30,800
of but what we do see is at the

2276
01:49:37,060 --> 01:49:33,230
beginning of recorded history just like

2277
01:49:39,190 --> 01:49:37,070
Graham is history frequently it's more

2278
01:49:41,620 --> 01:49:39,200
like the beginnings of history is it

2279
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:41,630
really the beginnings it's the end of

2280
01:49:46,020 --> 01:49:43,130
something you know the building of the

2281
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:46,030
pyramids on the Giza Plateau

2282
01:49:51,910 --> 01:49:48,890
see regardless of what conventional

2283
01:49:54,100 --> 01:49:51,920
thinkers think about this it just

2284
01:49:55,990 --> 01:49:54,110
doesn't make sense you know as somebody

2285
01:49:58,360 --> 01:49:56,000
who spent 40 years building things

2286
01:50:01,180 --> 01:49:58,370
knowing kind of what it didn't like to

2287
01:50:05,580 --> 01:50:01,190
have to move Oh something to weighs a

2288
01:50:08,820 --> 01:50:05,590
ton on occasion right to think that

2289
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:08,830
over the world you had hunter-gatherers

2290
01:50:14,070 --> 01:50:12,250
who just decided all of a sudden one day

2291
01:50:17,810 --> 01:50:14,080
you know what we're gonna start cutting

2292
01:50:20,790 --> 01:50:17,820
stones that way ten twenty a hundred

2293
01:50:22,919 --> 01:50:20,800
maybe even two hundred tons and start

2294
01:50:24,780 --> 01:50:22,929
building things out of these 200 ton

2295
01:50:26,820 --> 01:50:24,790
stones and we're going to cut those

2296
01:50:28,830 --> 01:50:26,830
stones and we're gonna other quarries

2297
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:28,840
and we're gonna have perhaps transport

2298
01:50:35,580 --> 01:50:32,250
them 50 or a hundred or or 200 miles

2299
01:50:37,620 --> 01:50:35,590
over land to build this thing you see

2300
01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:37,630
that just doesn't I'm sorry it doesn't

2301
01:50:44,100 --> 01:50:40,650
make sense to me okay you've got

2302
01:50:46,709 --> 01:50:44,110
hunter-gatherers right and okay maybe in

2303
01:50:48,270 --> 01:50:46,719
one place you could come up and say yeah

2304
01:50:51,089 --> 01:50:48,280
for whatever reason this particular

2305
01:50:52,950 --> 01:50:51,099
group on this particular continent this

2306
01:50:55,830 --> 01:50:52,960
particular region of the planet got

2307
01:50:58,169 --> 01:50:55,840
inspired or motivated to build to start

2308
01:51:01,560 --> 01:50:58,179
building things out of you know 20-ton

2309
01:51:04,830 --> 01:51:01,570
stones or 50-ton stones but we see it

2310
01:51:07,470 --> 01:51:04,840
Jimmy all over the world and in it I'm

2311
01:51:10,109 --> 01:51:07,480
sorry all of the attempts by the more

2312
01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:10,119
conventional thinkers to dismiss that or

2313
01:51:15,540 --> 01:51:12,730
to get around it and not have to address

2314
01:51:18,300 --> 01:51:15,550
it I think are completely missing the

2315
01:51:20,459 --> 01:51:18,310
reality that's that's staring them right

2316
01:51:23,850 --> 01:51:20,469
in the face it just does not make sense

2317
01:51:25,290 --> 01:51:23,860
I'm sorry it doesn't make sense and we

2318
01:51:27,810 --> 01:51:25,300
have to come up with some model of

2319
01:51:29,939 --> 01:51:27,820
history I think that can explain that

2320
01:51:32,339 --> 01:51:29,949
phenomena and I'm sorry the conventional

2321
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:32,349
model just doesn't you know you can

2322
01:51:35,129 --> 01:51:33,489
stand there and you can look at the

2323
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:35,139
pyramids on the Giza Plateau and you're

2324
01:51:39,510 --> 01:51:37,210
thinking wait a second the grandfather's

2325
01:51:42,330 --> 01:51:39,520
of the people that built these were just

2326
01:51:45,419 --> 01:51:42,340
farmers in the Nile Valley right and now

2327
01:51:47,310 --> 01:51:45,429
now they're built no I I'm sorry it

2328
01:51:51,270 --> 01:51:47,320
doesn't make sense and you can invoke

2329
01:51:52,649 --> 01:51:51,280
all of the the conventional models that

2330
01:51:54,990 --> 01:51:52,659
you want going back over the last

2331
01:51:56,820 --> 01:51:55,000
hundred years and I don't think I think

2332
01:52:00,410 --> 01:51:56,830
that all you're doing is attempting to

2333
01:52:03,390 --> 01:52:00,420
get around that reality that glaring

2334
01:52:05,820 --> 01:52:03,400
contradictory reality you see and then

2335
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:05,830
we can go South America we can go you

2336
01:52:10,709 --> 01:52:09,010
know Malta we can go to you know Lebanon

2337
01:52:14,250 --> 01:52:10,719
in Syria we can go to the British Isles

2338
01:52:16,950 --> 01:52:14,260
we find the same thing and that's what

2339
01:52:19,350 --> 01:52:16,960
I'm getting at so if we begin to try to

2340
01:52:21,030 --> 01:52:19,360
look at the explanation for that

2341
01:52:23,570 --> 01:52:21,040
I think it leads us directly into

2342
01:52:26,010 --> 01:52:23,580
admitting that yeah there was somebody

2343
01:52:29,550 --> 01:52:26,020
who had some kind of knowledge of

2344
01:52:35,570 --> 01:52:29,560
engineering of mathematics of astronomy

2345
01:52:39,510 --> 01:52:35,580
of geology and they were able to somehow

2346
01:52:41,640 --> 01:52:39,520
intervene in cultures and motivate these

2347
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:41,650
cultures to do these things and if you

2348
01:52:46,050 --> 01:52:43,090
look at the traditions of the cultures

2349
01:52:50,270 --> 01:52:46,060
themselves it confirms what I just said

2350
01:52:53,879 --> 01:52:50,280
they all talk about gods or these higher

2351
01:52:55,530 --> 01:52:53,889
beings that came in and I and I'm not

2352
01:52:57,510 --> 01:52:55,540
necessarily saying that there could have

2353
01:53:01,560 --> 01:52:57,520
been anything other than more

2354
01:53:03,930 --> 01:53:01,570
scientifically advanced humans right but

2355
01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:03,940
definitely when I look at the Great

2356
01:53:10,620 --> 01:53:08,290
Pyramid of Giza I'm seeing technological

2357
01:53:13,649 --> 01:53:10,630
advancement there that's something

2358
01:53:15,090 --> 01:53:13,659
beyond well oh you know so the

2359
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:15,100
explanations come well they built this

2360
01:53:21,209 --> 01:53:17,770
massive stone circle so that they could

2361
01:53:22,919 --> 01:53:21,219
know when to plant their crops well see

2362
01:53:24,870 --> 01:53:22,929
here's the thing Jimmy you you can

2363
01:53:26,340 --> 01:53:24,880
determine when to plant your crops just

2364
01:53:28,050 --> 01:53:26,350
by putting a stick in the ground and

2365
01:53:30,810 --> 01:53:28,060
drawing a circle around it you don't

2366
01:53:32,910 --> 01:53:30,820
need to move 50 stones that weigh 20

2367
01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:32,920
tons each and put them in a circle

2368
01:53:37,410 --> 01:53:35,290
aligned to the cardinal directions and

2369
01:53:40,109 --> 01:53:37,420
marking out the passage of the Sun and

2370
01:53:42,359 --> 01:53:40,119
the moon you don't need to do that you

2371
01:53:46,770 --> 01:53:42,369
know to know when to plant your crops or

2372
01:53:49,709 --> 01:53:46,780
grow some wheat right right there's a

2373
01:53:52,229 --> 01:53:49,719
major disconnect in conventional

2374
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:52,239
academic thinking there's a blind spot

2375
01:53:57,300 --> 01:53:55,330
and I don't know why but they are so

2376
01:53:59,700 --> 01:53:57,310
reluctant to admit that there may have

2377
01:54:02,189 --> 01:53:59,710
been something much grander and greater

2378
01:54:03,750 --> 01:54:02,199
going on in our prehistory that we

2379
01:54:07,200 --> 01:54:03,760
haven't figured out yet

2380
01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:07,210
have you ever leave we're gonna hit a

2381
01:54:13,490 --> 01:54:09,489
break here in a second but the migration

2382
01:54:17,010 --> 01:54:13,500
of us around this planet where

2383
01:54:20,070 --> 01:54:17,020
conventional academia is gonna say it

2384
01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:20,080
started in in southern Africa and and

2385
01:54:24,030 --> 01:54:22,330
went up and and and went around and here

2386
01:54:28,709 --> 01:54:24,040
we are today you know four million years

2387
01:54:31,919 --> 01:54:28,719
ago but the what was going on in Giza

2388
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:31,929
was also going on here and

2389
01:54:37,169 --> 01:54:34,570
in north america and south america but

2390
01:54:40,830 --> 01:54:37,179
it was also going on in in northern

2391
01:54:44,060 --> 01:54:40,840
russia and could it be that this

2392
01:54:47,070 --> 01:54:44,070
knowledge maybe came from the north and

2393
01:54:49,950 --> 01:54:47,080
progressed down the reason why i suggest

2394
01:54:53,910 --> 01:54:49,960
that is we have gobekli tepe which is

2395
01:54:59,640 --> 01:54:53,920
north of Giessen it's north and it was

2396
01:55:02,729 --> 01:54:59,650
built 7,000 years before the rise of the

2397
01:55:05,550 --> 01:55:02,739
the pharaohs so wait a minute it

2398
01:55:07,380 --> 01:55:05,560
couldn't have been the opposite of what

2399
01:55:10,490 --> 01:55:07,390
everybody is suggesting and why don't

2400
01:55:13,740 --> 01:55:10,500
they take a look at that and consider it

2401
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:13,750
well let's see who is the author or a

2402
01:55:17,970 --> 01:55:16,090
read the book years ago um it'll come to

2403
01:55:22,110 --> 01:55:17,980
me in a second who was proposing exactly

2404
01:55:24,180 --> 01:55:22,120
that what was his name I'll have it

2405
01:55:28,890 --> 01:55:24,190
after the break okay I can dress it up

2406
01:55:29,459 --> 01:55:28,900
from from the archives so how much time

2407
01:55:32,220 --> 01:55:29,469
we got left

2408
01:55:34,620 --> 01:55:32,230
yeah we've got four minutes oh four

2409
01:55:36,540 --> 01:55:34,630
minutes oh well okay that's enough to

2410
01:55:39,030 --> 01:55:36,550
cover a couple of thousand years of

2411
01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:39,040
theory all right well you know because

2412
01:55:45,660 --> 01:55:42,250
when we if you go and you start I

2413
01:55:47,970 --> 01:55:45,670
suggested this a few months ago

2414
01:55:50,669 --> 01:55:47,980
you know I'm just laying awake and then

2415
01:55:52,500 --> 01:55:50,679
thinking I can't stop my brain and I

2416
01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:52,510
started to think about the Black Sea and

2417
01:55:58,050 --> 01:55:55,090
and what was going on around there and

2418
01:55:59,760 --> 01:55:58,060
and you start to look at at Russia and

2419
01:56:02,340 --> 01:55:59,770
you go up you know and and head north

2420
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:02,350
you know certainly China too but how

2421
01:56:08,820 --> 01:56:04,810
that just funneled down through

2422
01:56:10,740 --> 01:56:08,830
modern-day Turkey today and the ancient

2423
01:56:13,919 --> 01:56:10,750
structures that are there that predate

2424
01:56:16,709 --> 01:56:13,929
everything else and of course gobekli

2425
01:56:21,149 --> 01:56:16,719
tepe is right there again at that magic

2426
01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:21,159
number at 10,500 BC that maybe this

2427
01:56:26,310 --> 01:56:23,050
knowledge came from the north and it

2428
01:56:29,250 --> 01:56:26,320
didn't come from the south up through

2429
01:56:31,290 --> 01:56:29,260
Egypt around Jerusalem and then up to

2430
01:56:34,620 --> 01:56:31,300
gobekli tepe because the dating is in

2431
01:56:39,419 --> 01:56:37,169
I certainly would consider that a

2432
01:56:41,820 --> 01:56:39,429
possibility and the name of this author

2433
01:56:44,370 --> 01:56:41,830
and his book which I read years ago will

2434
01:56:45,930 --> 01:56:44,380
come to me in a second but yes he was

2435
01:56:50,660 --> 01:56:45,940
proposing that that there was a northern

2436
01:56:53,610 --> 01:56:50,670
source yeah I certainly think that's

2437
01:56:55,890 --> 01:56:53,620
worthy of consideration I I wouldn't say

2438
01:56:57,959 --> 01:56:55,900
necessarily that oh I'm going to believe

2439
01:57:00,620 --> 01:56:57,969
that that's the final answer but it

2440
01:57:03,209 --> 01:57:00,630
could definitely be plausible in in my

2441
01:57:04,680 --> 01:57:03,219
opinion we got to be open to all

2442
01:57:06,300 --> 01:57:04,690
possibilities here because we're

2443
01:57:09,419 --> 01:57:06,310
confronted with something that's really

2444
01:57:11,939 --> 01:57:09,429
beyond any conventional explanation and

2445
01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:11,949
you know this is where I'm or what was

2446
01:57:16,620 --> 01:57:15,130
the old the geologist was a TC

2447
01:57:20,459 --> 01:57:16,630
Chamberlain I'm sure you don't remember

2448
01:57:21,840 --> 01:57:20,469
but I oh he was discounting his

2449
01:57:25,680 --> 01:57:21,850
colleagues around the turn of the

2450
01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:25,690
century for being too to hidebound to to

2451
01:57:29,330 --> 01:57:27,370
conventionally oriented and he said that

2452
01:57:32,879 --> 01:57:29,340
there's a important role for the

2453
01:57:35,129 --> 01:57:32,889
outrageous hypothesis in understanding

2454
01:57:37,590 --> 01:57:35,139
Earth history and you know I'm a firm

2455
01:57:40,709 --> 01:57:37,600
believer in that that we have to it's

2456
01:57:43,260 --> 01:57:40,719
the balancing between you know the

2457
01:57:44,729 --> 01:57:43,270
absurd and what could be possible you

2458
01:57:47,430 --> 01:57:44,739
know because there is a lot of whoo out

2459
01:57:49,590 --> 01:57:47,440
there whoo whoo stuff and you know we

2460
01:57:52,290 --> 01:57:49,600
got to be careful and consider always

2461
01:57:54,209 --> 01:57:52,300
consider what the evidence suggests but

2462
01:57:55,950 --> 01:57:54,219
interestingly I mean to me the evidence

2463
01:57:57,840 --> 01:57:55,960
points to something that's as

2464
01:57:59,610 --> 01:57:57,850
extraordinary as anything fictional that

2465
01:58:01,919 --> 01:57:59,620
you could come up with that's right and

2466
01:58:04,590 --> 01:58:01,929
and and Randall we've got a minute left

2467
01:58:06,689 --> 01:58:04,600
when we talk about the land bridges and

2468
01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:06,699
and the differences in sea levels and

2469
01:58:12,180 --> 01:58:09,730
certainly ice and and how different the

2470
01:58:14,550 --> 01:58:12,190
world was 40,000 years ago that that

2471
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:14,560
migration may be this is what I'm

2472
01:58:20,490 --> 01:58:17,530
suggesting maybe it started here in in

2473
01:58:22,890 --> 01:58:20,500
North America went up across around

2474
01:58:26,340 --> 01:58:22,900
through Russia through the land bridge

2475
01:58:30,030 --> 01:58:26,350
the opposite direction of what what is

2476
01:58:32,970 --> 01:58:30,040
is the the dogma that were fed and then

2477
01:58:35,370 --> 01:58:32,980
down from the north from Russia and and

2478
01:58:38,310 --> 01:58:35,380
around you know that's that's all I'm

2479
01:58:42,149 --> 01:58:38,320
suggesting here that maybe it started

2480
01:58:43,950 --> 01:58:42,159
here why the the ice that came down from

2481
01:58:47,560 --> 01:58:43,960
Canada and covered Northam and maybe

2482
01:58:50,020 --> 01:58:47,570
people split they went to where

2483
01:58:52,510 --> 01:58:50,030
the food was and they went back out and

2484
01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:52,520
across and around and then repopulated

2485
01:58:57,160 --> 01:58:55,010
North America at a later date when

2486
01:59:01,690 --> 01:58:57,170
things settle down I'm just saying

2487
01:59:03,130 --> 01:59:01,700
that's how my brain works well you know

2488
01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:03,140
you could be on to something if we're

2489
01:59:09,610 --> 01:59:05,450
going back 40 or 50 thousand years and

2490
01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:09,620
or maybe even earlier you know America

2491
01:59:15,490 --> 01:59:11,570
has been or I'd say North America has

2492
01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:15,500
been subject to this repeating this

2493
01:59:21,420 --> 01:59:18,410
recurring episodes of glacial and

2494
01:59:23,950 --> 01:59:21,430
interglacial ages so that you'll have

2495
01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:23,960
ten or fifteen thousand years of a

2496
01:59:27,910 --> 01:59:25,370
glacial age and then you'll have an

2497
01:59:30,070 --> 01:59:27,920
interim period that's as warm as now or

2498
01:59:32,650 --> 01:59:30,080
maybe not quite as warm but where the

2499
01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:32,660
glacier shrinks back maybe not disappear

2500
01:59:38,260 --> 01:59:36,410
altogether but shrink back to just only

2501
01:59:40,900 --> 01:59:38,270
a small part of what they had been at

2502
01:59:43,750 --> 01:59:40,910
their maximum and so there's actually

2503
01:59:47,650 --> 01:59:43,760
kind of a periodicity to this thing a

2504
01:59:50,020 --> 01:59:47,660
this expansion and contraction of the

2505
01:59:53,140 --> 01:59:50,030
glaciers the rising and falling of sea

2506
01:59:55,630 --> 01:59:53,150
levels it's almost like a pulse of the

2507
01:59:57,490 --> 01:59:55,640
climate of the global climate in the

2508
01:59:59,050 --> 01:59:57,500
interim periods yes there could have

2509
02:00:01,780 --> 01:59:59,060
been who knows what could have arisen

2510
02:00:04,540 --> 02:00:01,790
during those interim periods but then

2511
02:00:07,210 --> 02:00:04,550
basically erased when the next ice age

2512
02:00:10,810 --> 02:00:07,220
comes because think about you know think

2513
02:00:14,170 --> 02:00:10,820
about Canada in Canada hold on hold on I

2514
02:00:15,340 --> 02:00:14,180
gotta take a break right here I can tell

2515
02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:15,350
where this is going

2516
02:00:20,110 --> 02:00:17,930
so all right let's take a quick break

2517
02:00:22,570 --> 02:00:20,120
and also want you to wrap your mind

2518
02:00:25,690 --> 02:00:22,580
around a conversation about the the

2519
02:00:27,370 --> 02:00:25,700
rakat structure and there's something

2520
02:00:29,620 --> 02:00:27,380
going on there too as well we'll be

2521
02:00:32,290 --> 02:00:29,630
right back our guest Randall Carlson

2522
02:00:34,339 --> 02:00:32,300
stay with me

2523
02:00:39,410 --> 02:00:34,349
everybody's brought out for the mental

2524
02:00:45,240 --> 02:00:42,690
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2528
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2529
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2530
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2531
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increasing where does it all end it ends

2532
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2550
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2560
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2561
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2564
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2565
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2566
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2572
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2573
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2574
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2580
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2581
02:02:58,239 --> 02:02:56,229
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2586
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2587
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2589
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2590
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I've been drinking that has had great

2591
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results for over 20 years

2592
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it's called life changed tea and it's

2593
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2594
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and cleanse your kidneys liver colon and

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blood all at once the colon is one of

2596
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the most ignored organs in the human

2597
02:03:37,750 --> 02:03:35,960
body the faster that waste is eliminated

2598
02:03:39,759 --> 02:03:37,760
from the body the less time that way

2599
02:03:41,680 --> 02:03:39,769
sits in our intestine spreading toxins

2600
02:03:43,629 --> 02:03:41,690
to our bloodstream this tea helps

2601
02:03:45,489 --> 02:03:43,639
cleanse chemicals caused by outside

2602
02:03:48,549 --> 02:03:45,499
intruders from our entire digestive

2603
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2604
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2605
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2606
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2607
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2608
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if you're tired of being tired

2609
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get the life change tea at get the tea

2610
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calm that's get the tea calm and like me

2611
02:04:11,020 --> 02:04:09,289
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2612
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2613
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2614
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listen to every minute of fade to black

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2621
02:04:41,640 --> 02:04:33,800
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2622
02:04:45,680 --> 02:04:43,340
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2623
02:04:47,820 --> 02:04:45,690
[Applause]

2624
02:04:52,080 --> 02:04:47,830
you want to know a secret

2625
02:04:55,020 --> 02:04:52,090
I love ponies I really love for this I'm

2626
02:04:59,550 --> 02:04:55,030
serious I couldn't stay sane without

2627
02:05:04,819 --> 02:04:59,560
poor mr. brush I fade to black because

2628
02:05:08,789 --> 02:05:06,659
this is fade to black

2629
02:05:12,479 --> 02:05:08,799
with Jimmy Church on the game changer

2630
02:05:14,860 --> 02:05:12,489
radio network and K GRA the global radio

2631
02:05:26,860 --> 02:05:14,870
alliance

2632
02:05:34,010 --> 02:05:29,210
welcome back fade to black I'm your host

2633
02:05:38,770 --> 02:05:34,020
Jimmy Church our guest tonight Randall

2634
02:05:41,030 --> 02:05:38,780
Carlson the conversation sacred geometry

2635
02:05:43,460 --> 02:05:41,040
international.com is the website the

2636
02:05:45,620 --> 02:05:43,470
links for Randall are over at Jimmy

2637
02:05:47,300 --> 02:05:45,630
Church radio comm and of course you can

2638
02:05:50,900 --> 02:05:47,310
also follow Randall on twitter at a

2639
02:05:55,820 --> 02:05:50,910
sacred geometry int right isn't that

2640
02:06:00,350 --> 02:05:55,830
what it is it's a commentary int under

2641
02:06:02,720 --> 02:06:00,360
geometry international it started out as

2642
02:06:06,170 --> 02:06:02,730
sacred geometry Atlanta then it went to

2643
02:06:07,960 --> 02:06:06,180
think sacred geometry America and now

2644
02:06:10,550 --> 02:06:07,970
it's extended to sacred geometry

2645
02:06:13,490 --> 02:06:10,560
International I'm actually pushing for

2646
02:06:15,410 --> 02:06:13,500
sacred geometry galactic right out I run

2647
02:06:18,260 --> 02:06:15,420
but that's just still a few years in the

2648
02:06:20,150 --> 02:06:18,270
future how smug will see once once we

2649
02:06:22,400 --> 02:06:20,160
start getting feedback from the galactic

2650
02:06:22,610 --> 02:06:22,410
level that's when we roll yeah there you

2651
02:06:25,190 --> 02:06:22,620
go

2652
02:06:29,750 --> 02:06:25,200
I want to give some credit here to

2653
02:06:32,930 --> 02:06:29,760
Cameron how smart is he constantly

2654
02:06:34,700 --> 02:06:32,940
surprises me no he's an immensely

2655
02:06:39,080 --> 02:06:34,710
talented individual and he's very

2656
02:06:41,360 --> 02:06:39,090
committed to doing this work I you know

2657
02:06:43,760 --> 02:06:41,370
what's happened in the last ten years I

2658
02:06:45,560 --> 02:06:43,770
couldn't have done without Cameron or my

2659
02:06:47,600 --> 02:06:45,570
other good colleague Brad young I have

2660
02:06:50,540 --> 02:06:47,610
to give credit to both these guys Brad

2661
02:06:54,050 --> 02:06:50,550
Young has put together the Geo cosmic

2662
02:06:57,070 --> 02:06:54,060
Rex dot-com website it has now over a

2663
02:06:59,660 --> 02:06:57,080
hundred video clips on it of our

2664
02:07:02,810 --> 02:06:59,670
excursions out into the field it's also

2665
02:07:05,510 --> 02:07:02,820
got mold maybe a dozen or so articles

2666
02:07:07,160 --> 02:07:05,520
and essays that I have written giving

2667
02:07:10,130 --> 02:07:07,170
background to this he's yeah we've got

2668
02:07:12,230 --> 02:07:10,140
he's got videos up there when we were

2669
02:07:14,900 --> 02:07:12,240
traveling with Graham of myself and

2670
02:07:18,440 --> 02:07:14,910
Graham out in the field examining this

2671
02:07:20,180 --> 02:07:18,450
day that he's also got drone footage now

2672
02:07:22,460 --> 02:07:20,190
because he's become a licensed drone

2673
02:07:25,220 --> 02:07:22,470
pilot federally licensed drone pilots so

2674
02:07:28,370 --> 02:07:25,230
we are now part of what we're doing is

2675
02:07:31,760 --> 02:07:28,380
archiving drone footage of these

2676
02:07:34,430 --> 02:07:31,770
landscapes of catastrophe so those two

2677
02:07:36,980 --> 02:07:34,440
guys Brad young and Cameron Wiltshire

2678
02:07:39,950 --> 02:07:36,990
have been indispensable to everything

2679
02:07:42,110 --> 02:07:39,960
that's happened in the last 10 to 20

2680
02:07:45,229 --> 02:07:42,120
Brad and I have been traveling together

2681
02:07:48,320 --> 02:07:45,239
going on about 20 close to 22 years now

2682
02:07:52,130 --> 02:07:48,330
we've done God I've even lost count 40

2683
02:07:54,950 --> 02:07:52,140
or 50 expeditions around documenting

2684
02:07:57,500 --> 02:07:54,960
this so we have hundreds of hours of

2685
02:08:00,320 --> 02:07:57,510
video clips tens of thousands of slides

2686
02:08:03,200 --> 02:08:00,330
and photographs and now we're adding the

2687
02:08:05,330 --> 02:08:03,210
drone footage to it so you'll find

2688
02:08:07,010 --> 02:08:05,340
between those two websites people can

2689
02:08:10,450 --> 02:08:07,020
get pretty much a whole broad spectrum

2690
02:08:12,740 --> 02:08:10,460
of what this research is all about

2691
02:08:15,110 --> 02:08:12,750
because there's on the one hand there's

2692
02:08:17,270 --> 02:08:15,120
the sacred geometry side of it like

2693
02:08:19,070 --> 02:08:17,280
we've been talking about that was born

2694
02:08:20,750 --> 02:08:19,080
out of the studies of architecture and

2695
02:08:23,090 --> 02:08:20,760
art and things like that and then the

2696
02:08:25,640 --> 02:08:23,100
other side is that what came out of the

2697
02:08:28,520 --> 02:08:25,650
studies of the earth that came out of

2698
02:08:29,959 --> 02:08:28,530
astronomy and to me what's exciting

2699
02:08:33,410 --> 02:08:29,969
about is really we said we're seeing an

2700
02:08:35,650 --> 02:08:33,420
American vergence of these and it's into

2701
02:08:38,870 --> 02:08:35,660
that even in the in the nomenclature

2702
02:08:41,690 --> 02:08:38,880
geometry measure of the earth geology

2703
02:08:43,610 --> 02:08:41,700
earth knowledge right so they're both

2704
02:08:47,780 --> 02:08:43,620
referring us back ultimately to the

2705
02:08:50,990 --> 02:08:47,790
earth which is the the center of all

2706
02:08:52,850 --> 02:08:51,000
this action that we're talking about but

2707
02:08:55,370 --> 02:08:52,860
I think that what we're having to do now

2708
02:08:57,470 --> 02:08:55,380
is begin to expand our horizons and

2709
02:09:00,940 --> 02:08:57,480
realize and understand that the earth is

2710
02:09:03,740 --> 02:09:00,950
a much as part of a much larger

2711
02:09:06,680 --> 02:09:03,750
ecosystem it is literally part of a

2712
02:09:09,130 --> 02:09:06,690
cosmic ecosystem and this is part of

2713
02:09:10,850 --> 02:09:09,140
what gets me frustrated in a lot of the

2714
02:09:14,390 --> 02:09:10,860
discussions and debate about climate

2715
02:09:17,510 --> 02:09:14,400
change is that we seem to be focused now

2716
02:09:20,180 --> 02:09:17,520
exclusively on the human influence on

2717
02:09:23,660 --> 02:09:20,190
climate to the neglect of what we're

2718
02:09:26,150 --> 02:09:23,670
learning is lots of other very potent

2719
02:09:28,459 --> 02:09:26,160
and powerful influences on the climate

2720
02:09:30,520 --> 02:09:28,469
both coming into genic and or

2721
02:09:33,650 --> 02:09:30,530
genetically from within the earth and

2722
02:09:35,630 --> 02:09:33,660
exegetically from outside the earth and

2723
02:09:38,750 --> 02:09:35,640
sometimes the two interacting together

2724
02:09:41,690 --> 02:09:38,760
so for example when you go back and you

2725
02:09:45,380 --> 02:09:41,700
look at some of the first the dating of

2726
02:09:46,729 --> 02:09:45,390
the Younger Dryas event which is twelve

2727
02:09:49,459 --> 02:09:46,739
thousand nine hundred were the black

2728
02:09:52,070 --> 02:09:49,469
mantas if you go into the flood lands of

2729
02:09:53,689 --> 02:09:52,080
Eastern Washington what you'll find is

2730
02:09:56,719 --> 02:09:53,699
that there are these gigantic

2731
02:10:00,049 --> 02:09:56,729
lack back flood sedimentary layers some

2732
02:10:02,359 --> 02:10:00,059
are three and four feet thick sandwiched

2733
02:10:05,689 --> 02:10:02,369
in between these you see volcanic ash

2734
02:10:07,549 --> 02:10:05,699
there's an example of a gully that got

2735
02:10:13,160 --> 02:10:07,559
exposed in Eastern Washington that's

2736
02:10:16,759 --> 02:10:13,170
composed of a whole succession of about

2737
02:10:22,029 --> 02:10:16,769
39 or 40 layers of these baths floods

2738
02:10:26,540 --> 02:10:22,039
and sandwiched in there is ash that was

2739
02:10:28,219 --> 02:10:26,550
discharged or thrown out of Mount st.

2740
02:10:31,640 --> 02:10:28,229
Helens and it was undergoing a

2741
02:10:33,709 --> 02:10:31,650
tremendous volcanic eruption and at the

2742
02:10:35,810 --> 02:10:33,719
same time these tremendous floods were

2743
02:10:37,910 --> 02:10:35,820
going on and there were other huge

2744
02:10:39,529 --> 02:10:37,920
volcanic eruptions around the planet

2745
02:10:41,989 --> 02:10:39,539
that we're taking place at the same time

2746
02:10:43,370 --> 02:10:41,999
and it would make sense when you think

2747
02:10:46,609 --> 02:10:43,380
about it because when you have this

2748
02:10:49,779 --> 02:10:46,619
rapid melting of ice releasing the loads

2749
02:10:53,330 --> 02:10:49,789
on the North American continent and the

2750
02:10:55,310 --> 02:10:53,340
northwestern European continent and the

2751
02:10:57,919 --> 02:10:55,320
transfer of that tremendous amount of

2752
02:11:00,859 --> 02:10:57,929
weight back into the ocean basins there

2753
02:11:03,160 --> 02:11:00,869
has to be a tectonic and seismic

2754
02:11:05,810 --> 02:11:03,170
response you can't get around

2755
02:11:08,419 --> 02:11:05,820
transferring that much mass that much

2756
02:11:10,520 --> 02:11:08,429
weight around shifting it around on the

2757
02:11:12,830 --> 02:11:10,530
surface of the earth without having a

2758
02:11:15,169 --> 02:11:12,840
subsurface response so it would make

2759
02:11:18,379 --> 02:11:15,179
totally perfect sense that you would

2760
02:11:21,049 --> 02:11:18,389
have tremendous examples of volcanism

2761
02:11:23,959 --> 02:11:21,059
and seismic activity and both of which

2762
02:11:26,390 --> 02:11:23,969
are now being documented in abundance to

2763
02:11:29,899 --> 02:11:26,400
have occurred during this transition so

2764
02:11:33,680 --> 02:11:29,909
really this whole epoch of transition

2765
02:11:35,350 --> 02:11:33,690
was like a perfect storm of stuff you

2766
02:11:38,479 --> 02:11:35,360
haven't really thought well yeah

2767
02:11:41,779 --> 02:11:38,489
actually I'm probably gonna help you

2768
02:11:44,029 --> 02:11:41,789
continue that thought we had a really

2769
02:11:45,830 --> 02:11:44,039
great show the other night with your

2770
02:11:47,479 --> 02:11:45,840
good friend at night and Gail our good

2771
02:11:50,060 --> 02:11:47,489
friend member of this family

2772
02:11:52,609 --> 02:11:50,070
and one of the things that came out in

2773
02:11:57,949 --> 02:11:52,619
my mind's eye from that conversation is

2774
02:12:00,350 --> 02:11:57,959
that these these events here now we talk

2775
02:12:01,910 --> 02:12:00,360
about you know ice ages and these these

2776
02:12:04,569 --> 02:12:01,920
these grand events but there's also

2777
02:12:07,180 --> 02:12:04,579
other things too I think to consider

2778
02:12:10,570 --> 02:12:07,190
volcanic eruptions earth

2779
02:12:14,250 --> 02:12:10,580
makes these these huge things that

2780
02:12:18,040 --> 02:12:14,260
happen that maybe these forces are

2781
02:12:20,530 --> 02:12:18,050
triggered inside this this planet of

2782
02:12:23,680 --> 02:12:20,540
course but from external forces that are

2783
02:12:26,050 --> 02:12:23,690
occurring out in in in the galaxy and

2784
02:12:27,760 --> 02:12:26,060
throughout the universe and what do you

2785
02:12:30,780 --> 02:12:27,770
think about that because we're talking

2786
02:12:33,340 --> 02:12:30,790
about the zodiac and the alignments and

2787
02:12:35,850 --> 02:12:33,350
it seems like there could be something

2788
02:12:40,180 --> 02:12:35,860
else going on that we're looking to us

2789
02:12:42,340 --> 02:12:40,190
you know of this planet and us as being

2790
02:12:43,990 --> 02:12:42,350
some of the causes of it we may not have

2791
02:12:47,530 --> 02:12:44,000
any control at all and it may be

2792
02:12:50,320 --> 02:12:47,540
happening from off-planet well I think

2793
02:12:52,810 --> 02:12:50,330
you're exactly right Jimmy and and I'll

2794
02:12:54,700 --> 02:12:52,820
try to explain a model that I think is

2795
02:12:56,950 --> 02:12:54,710
kind of something that is being

2796
02:12:59,979 --> 02:12:56,960
supported by accumulating evidence it

2797
02:13:01,720 --> 02:12:59,989
begins to make sense we've got a solar

2798
02:13:03,550 --> 02:13:01,730
system level and we have a galactic

2799
02:13:06,240 --> 02:13:03,560
level and if we look at the architecture

2800
02:13:08,709 --> 02:13:06,250
of the solar system we see we've got a

2801
02:13:10,360 --> 02:13:08,719
zone of inner planets and we have a zone

2802
02:13:12,820 --> 02:13:10,370
of outer planets much larger outer

2803
02:13:15,430 --> 02:13:12,830
planets which consists of Jupiter Saturn

2804
02:13:18,490 --> 02:13:15,440
Uranus and Neptune then if you get

2805
02:13:20,530 --> 02:13:18,500
outside the orbit of Neptune you get

2806
02:13:23,400 --> 02:13:20,540
into a zone called the Kuiper belt which

2807
02:13:26,590 --> 02:13:23,410
is a zone of billions of comets

2808
02:13:28,450 --> 02:13:26,600
presumably leftover from the original

2809
02:13:32,380 --> 02:13:28,460
construction of the solar system

2810
02:13:35,560 --> 02:13:32,390
now this belt of comets ranges from oh I

2811
02:13:39,490 --> 02:13:35,570
think about 20 astronomical units out to

2812
02:13:41,680 --> 02:13:39,500
maybe 200 astronomical units now an

2813
02:13:45,160 --> 02:13:41,690
astronomical unit is the distance from

2814
02:13:47,700 --> 02:13:45,170
the earth to the Sun okay then going way

2815
02:13:50,439 --> 02:13:47,710
beyond the Kuiper disc you get into

2816
02:13:53,880 --> 02:13:50,449
another area of a disc that's part of

2817
02:13:57,310 --> 02:13:53,890
the word cloud which is a hypothesized

2818
02:14:00,880 --> 02:13:57,320
sphere of cometary bodies that surrounds

2819
02:14:03,370 --> 02:14:00,890
the solar system way I mean way out out

2820
02:14:05,890 --> 02:14:03,380
halfway to the nearest stars so you're

2821
02:14:08,310 --> 02:14:05,900
looking at even extending out thousands

2822
02:14:11,709 --> 02:14:08,320
of light-years and not like yours

2823
02:14:16,890 --> 02:14:11,719
astronomical units from the inner solar

2824
02:14:20,800 --> 02:14:16,900
system right now it's hypothesized upon

2825
02:14:25,450 --> 02:14:20,810
you know upon reasonable conjecture

2826
02:14:29,940 --> 02:14:25,460
that the word cloud is periodically

2827
02:14:32,620 --> 02:14:29,950
affected by events on the Galactic level

2828
02:14:34,630 --> 02:14:32,630
so because of the fact that the word

2829
02:14:36,780 --> 02:14:34,640
cloud is so far away it's it's only

2830
02:14:40,060 --> 02:14:36,790
loosely bound to the inner solar system

2831
02:14:44,670 --> 02:14:40,070
so it can be affected by the

2832
02:14:49,570 --> 02:14:44,680
gravitational pull of the galaxy or

2833
02:14:51,340 --> 02:14:49,580
passing stars possibly nova events you

2834
02:14:54,520 --> 02:14:51,350
know the fact that our solar system

2835
02:14:57,490 --> 02:14:54,530
wobbles up and down above and below the

2836
02:15:00,160 --> 02:14:57,500
Galactic plane the Galactic plane is the

2837
02:15:03,520 --> 02:15:00,170
area of greatest concentration of

2838
02:15:05,620 --> 02:15:03,530
greatest density of material so as our

2839
02:15:07,810 --> 02:15:05,630
solar system oscillates above and below

2840
02:15:11,710 --> 02:15:07,820
it's possible at these events on a

2841
02:15:15,310 --> 02:15:11,720
galactic level or possibly to use the

2842
02:15:17,500 --> 02:15:15,320
scenario of Palsy of electi which was

2843
02:15:19,990 --> 02:15:17,510
the galactic pulse that periodically

2844
02:15:20,980 --> 02:15:20,000
there are core explosions at the the

2845
02:15:23,380 --> 02:15:20,990
galactic center

2846
02:15:25,750 --> 02:15:23,390
whatever the cause whether it's a

2847
02:15:27,820 --> 02:15:25,760
passing star whether it's a nova event

2848
02:15:29,770 --> 02:15:27,830
whether it's the oscillation of the

2849
02:15:32,470 --> 02:15:29,780
solar system above and below the

2850
02:15:35,830 --> 02:15:32,480
Galactic plane whether it's galactic or

2851
02:15:38,080 --> 02:15:35,840
explosions something on that level can

2852
02:15:39,970 --> 02:15:38,090
affect the word cloud and the stability

2853
02:15:42,520 --> 02:15:39,980
of comets in the Oort cloud know when

2854
02:15:45,370 --> 02:15:42,530
that happens when they become dislodged

2855
02:15:49,210 --> 02:15:45,380
from their orbits they began to migrate

2856
02:15:51,400 --> 02:15:49,220
towards the inner solar system okay now

2857
02:15:53,140 --> 02:15:51,410
what can happen is they can become short

2858
02:15:56,230 --> 02:15:53,150
period comets or they can become

2859
02:15:58,570 --> 02:15:56,240
residents of the Kuiper belt which is

2860
02:16:01,240 --> 02:15:58,580
this the zone now the disk of comets

2861
02:16:04,570 --> 02:16:01,250
that exist pretty much just outside the

2862
02:16:07,030 --> 02:16:04,580
orbit of Neptune right so now here's the

2863
02:16:10,090 --> 02:16:07,040
picture on the Galactic level comets can

2864
02:16:12,340 --> 02:16:10,100
be perturbed in the Oort cloud that can

2865
02:16:13,870 --> 02:16:12,350
send a cascade of comets towards the

2866
02:16:16,060 --> 02:16:13,880
inner solar system now it may take

2867
02:16:17,830 --> 02:16:16,070
hundreds of thousands of years for them

2868
02:16:19,750 --> 02:16:17,840
to make that journey from way out there

2869
02:16:22,570 --> 02:16:19,760
especially because they're on long

2870
02:16:24,640 --> 02:16:22,580
spiraling orbits that each each passage

2871
02:16:27,190 --> 02:16:24,650
brings them in closer to the inner solar

2872
02:16:28,450 --> 02:16:27,200
system and closer to the Sun right and

2873
02:16:31,810 --> 02:16:28,460
then you have the Kuiper disc

2874
02:16:34,810 --> 02:16:31,820
so the Kuiper disk now is close enough

2875
02:16:36,550 --> 02:16:34,820
that it can be affected by the

2876
02:16:39,430 --> 02:16:36,560
or planets and there's some very

2877
02:16:41,220 --> 02:16:39,440
interesting work that has been done what

2878
02:16:45,340 --> 02:16:41,230
were their names

2879
02:16:47,560 --> 02:16:45,350
let's see Harold Levinson Boulder

2880
02:16:49,270 --> 02:16:47,570
Colorado let's see Martin Duncan who was

2881
02:16:51,400 --> 02:16:49,280
with Queens University at Kingston

2882
02:16:52,420 --> 02:16:51,410
Ontario I'm trying to pull up my some

2883
02:16:55,690 --> 02:16:52,430
notes here

2884
02:16:59,410 --> 02:16:55,700
yeah they published a very results of a

2885
02:17:01,660 --> 02:16:59,420
very interesting study go back oh gosh

2886
02:17:04,120 --> 02:17:01,670
it's been close to 15 years now I think

2887
02:17:06,970 --> 02:17:04,130
I don't remember the exact date of it

2888
02:17:10,980 --> 02:17:06,980
but they published their studies which

2889
02:17:16,000 --> 02:17:10,990
was a computer a very sophisticated

2890
02:17:20,230 --> 02:17:16,010
computer study of how comets end up

2891
02:17:22,630 --> 02:17:20,240
being transferred into the inner solar

2892
02:17:27,250 --> 02:17:22,640
system where they can okay I found it

2893
02:17:29,170 --> 02:17:27,260
here let's see here's what it says with

2894
02:17:32,140 --> 02:17:29,180
the existence of the Kuiper belt no

2895
02:17:34,000 --> 02:17:32,150
longer in doubt this was gosh published

2896
02:17:35,830 --> 02:17:34,010
in science news I don't think I have the

2897
02:17:38,140 --> 02:17:35,840
date handy but it was about 15 years ago

2898
02:17:41,140 --> 02:17:38,150
with the existence of the Kuiper belt no

2899
02:17:43,630 --> 02:17:41,150
longer in doubt researchers have turned

2900
02:17:46,300 --> 02:17:43,640
to another question how do short period

2901
02:17:48,730 --> 02:17:46,310
comets leave this storehouse and how do

2902
02:17:51,700 --> 02:17:48,740
they venture into the inner solar system

2903
02:17:53,470 --> 02:17:51,710
a year ago researchers provided the

2904
02:17:55,960 --> 02:17:53,480
definitive answer to the first part of

2905
02:17:58,300 --> 02:17:55,970
the riddle in the simplest terms comets

2906
02:18:02,740 --> 02:17:58,310
leave the belt because it has a slow

2907
02:18:05,470 --> 02:18:02,750
leak so Martin Duncan and Stewart and

2908
02:18:07,920 --> 02:18:05,480
bud and Harold F Levison reported the

2909
02:18:11,070 --> 02:18:07,930
results of the most extensive computer

2910
02:18:16,350 --> 02:18:11,080
simulation ever done of the Kuiper belt

2911
02:18:18,730 --> 02:18:16,360
so what happens is this some of the

2912
02:18:21,580 --> 02:18:18,740
Comets that escaped from the Kuiper belt

2913
02:18:25,270 --> 02:18:21,590
move away from the solar system others

2914
02:18:27,580 --> 02:18:25,280
get flung in inward in the towards the

2915
02:18:30,610 --> 02:18:27,590
orbit of Neptune now here I'll go back

2916
02:18:32,291 --> 02:18:30,620
to quoting the article here once a comet

2917
02:18:35,800 --> 02:18:32,301
falls into Neptune's gravitational

2918
02:18:38,530 --> 02:18:35,810
clutches the other large outer planets

2919
02:18:41,320 --> 02:18:38,540
start to exert their own gravitational

2920
02:18:43,180 --> 02:18:41,330
influence in this way some comets from

2921
02:18:45,550 --> 02:18:43,190
the Kuiper belt make their way toward

2922
02:18:48,100 --> 02:18:45,560
the inner solar system where they come

2923
02:18:48,700 --> 02:18:48,110
alive in the sun's warmth now here's

2924
02:18:50,049 --> 02:18:48,710
where it gets

2925
02:18:53,049 --> 02:18:50,059
interesting here's what their computer

2926
02:18:55,930 --> 02:18:53,059
simulations showed the new calculations

2927
02:18:58,180 --> 02:18:55,940
by Levison & duncan show that one

2928
02:19:02,770 --> 02:18:58,190
shouldn't take such a model for granted

2929
02:19:07,060 --> 02:19:02,780
because it's only because Neptune Uranus

2930
02:19:10,540 --> 02:19:07,070
Saturn and Jupiter are spaced exactly

2931
02:19:13,600 --> 02:19:10,550
far enough apart that each has a chance

2932
02:19:16,600 --> 02:19:13,610
of handing off a comet to the next and

2933
02:19:19,000 --> 02:19:16,610
of course once that bucket brigade once

2934
02:19:20,799 --> 02:19:19,010
that handing off reaches Jupiter Jupiter

2935
02:19:23,049 --> 02:19:20,809
you know like the Greek god Jupiter

2936
02:19:23,620 --> 02:19:23,059
hurling his Thunderbolts hurls those

2937
02:19:25,270 --> 02:19:23,630
comets

2938
02:19:28,299 --> 02:19:25,280
either towards the Sun or hurls them

2939
02:19:30,850 --> 02:19:28,309
back out into deep space now if they get

2940
02:19:33,160 --> 02:19:30,860
hurled towards the Sun what happens they

2941
02:19:36,669 --> 02:19:33,170
become activated they come out of their

2942
02:19:39,669 --> 02:19:36,679
their deep space hibernation and they

2943
02:19:41,320 --> 02:19:39,679
begin to basically come alive now if we

2944
02:19:43,419 --> 02:19:41,330
look at the life cycle of a comet

2945
02:19:46,839 --> 02:19:43,429
there's basically five stages the

2946
02:19:48,940 --> 02:19:46,849
original stage was the aggregation which

2947
02:19:51,940 --> 02:19:48,950
was the accretion of interstellar matter

2948
02:19:54,430 --> 02:19:51,950
their condensation integration and final

2949
02:19:57,010 --> 02:19:54,440
ejection from the inner solar system and

2950
02:20:00,340 --> 02:19:57,020
this is what I refer to as the stone the

2951
02:20:02,250 --> 02:20:00,350
builders rejected and this is now what

2952
02:20:05,820 --> 02:20:02,260
sort forms the basis for the reservoir

2953
02:20:07,900 --> 02:20:05,830
of comets the second thing now is

2954
02:20:10,120 --> 02:20:07,910
hibernation because once they're in the

2955
02:20:11,650 --> 02:20:10,130
word cloud or the Kuiper disc they're so

2956
02:20:14,980 --> 02:20:11,660
far removed from the Sun that they go

2957
02:20:17,230 --> 02:20:14,990
into this state of deep freeze well the

2958
02:20:19,810 --> 02:20:17,240
third stage is activation when they

2959
02:20:22,480 --> 02:20:19,820
become perturbed by whatever source if

2960
02:20:25,030 --> 02:20:22,490
if it's the Oort cloud as I said to

2961
02:20:27,250 --> 02:20:25,040
perturbed on a galactic level if it's

2962
02:20:30,070 --> 02:20:27,260
the Kuiper disc the inner zone they get

2963
02:20:32,560 --> 02:20:30,080
perturbed by get this conjunctions of

2964
02:20:34,750 --> 02:20:32,570
the four outer planets right so we

2965
02:20:36,880 --> 02:20:34,760
almost have like an astrological model

2966
02:20:38,770 --> 02:20:36,890
here when these four outer planets as

2967
02:20:40,330 --> 02:20:38,780
this computer simulation showed are in

2968
02:20:43,300 --> 02:20:40,340
the right position relative to each

2969
02:20:45,700 --> 02:20:43,310
other and their gravitational fields

2970
02:20:48,100 --> 02:20:45,710
feedback positively and amplify each

2971
02:20:49,990 --> 02:20:48,110
other they can they can capture these

2972
02:20:53,320 --> 02:20:50,000
comets and that's when the bucket

2973
02:20:56,380 --> 02:20:53,330
brigade starts when it goes from from

2974
02:20:58,330 --> 02:20:56,390
the outer from from Neptune in to Uranus

2975
02:21:00,400 --> 02:20:58,340
from Uranus that hands it off to Saturn

2976
02:21:02,350 --> 02:21:00,410
Saturn and hands it off to Jupiter and

2977
02:21:04,690 --> 02:21:02,360
then the king of the planets

2978
02:21:06,430 --> 02:21:04,700
either throws that comet back out of the

2979
02:21:08,740 --> 02:21:06,440
solar system or throws it towards the

2980
02:21:11,261 --> 02:21:08,750
Sun once it starts moving towards the

2981
02:21:13,841 --> 02:21:11,271
Sun once this orbital transfer takes

2982
02:21:16,660 --> 02:21:13,851
place and the Sun we're journey begins

2983
02:21:19,541 --> 02:21:16,670
then the comet becomes active it starts

2984
02:21:21,820 --> 02:21:19,551
outgassing it forms a tail it begins its

2985
02:21:25,091 --> 02:21:21,830
first stages of transformation to a D

2986
02:21:27,490 --> 02:21:25,101
volatilized nuclei the next stages it

2987
02:21:30,100 --> 02:21:27,500
begins to undergo disintegration if it's

2988
02:21:31,870 --> 02:21:30,110
an icy matrix that will be vaporization

2989
02:21:34,030 --> 02:21:31,880
of the icy matrix there will be a

2990
02:21:36,190 --> 02:21:34,040
disintegration of the comet nucleus and

2991
02:21:38,291 --> 02:21:36,200
it will begin to form a meteor and dust

2992
02:21:41,230 --> 02:21:38,301
stream after successive orbits around

2993
02:21:44,350 --> 02:21:41,240
the Sun the final stage which I call

2994
02:21:47,711 --> 02:21:44,360
amalgamation is involve solar or

2995
02:21:49,631 --> 02:21:47,721
planetary encounters and this is if the

2996
02:21:52,331 --> 02:21:49,641
piece of a comet a piece of Duvall Atal

2997
02:21:54,520 --> 02:21:52,341
eyes nuclei it's a planet it creates a

2998
02:21:56,921 --> 02:21:54,530
crater so you have crater formation

2999
02:21:59,711 --> 02:21:56,931
you also have raw material injection

3000
02:22:02,620 --> 02:21:59,721
into the Earth's atmosphere into the

3001
02:22:05,350 --> 02:22:02,630
hydrosphere into the lithosphere into

3002
02:22:08,381 --> 02:22:05,360
the biosphere and I think this provides

3003
02:22:10,930 --> 02:22:08,391
a primary stimulus to the extinction

3004
02:22:12,581 --> 02:22:10,940
evolution cycles that we see and we

3005
02:22:15,761 --> 02:22:12,591
could have a whole long discussion about

3006
02:22:17,560 --> 02:22:15,771
these celestial influences on life here

3007
02:22:19,780 --> 02:22:17,570
below but I think that these represent

3008
02:22:22,240 --> 02:22:19,790
the five stages in the life cycle of a

3009
02:22:25,301 --> 02:22:22,250
comet and the final stage is that it can

3010
02:22:28,511 --> 02:22:25,311
form streams of dust it can form

3011
02:22:30,881 --> 02:22:28,521
meteorite streams it can become part of

3012
02:22:32,740 --> 02:22:30,891
the family of sungrazing comets which is

3013
02:22:34,810 --> 02:22:32,750
like a new family of comets it's only

3014
02:22:37,480 --> 02:22:34,820
been discovered within the last decade

3015
02:22:40,541 --> 02:22:37,490
or so and which shows us that that

3016
02:22:42,551 --> 02:22:40,551
comets in the inner solar system there's

3017
02:22:44,230 --> 02:22:42,561
way way more of them than anybody

3018
02:22:47,020 --> 02:22:44,240
expected but a lot of them are invisible

3019
02:22:50,171 --> 02:22:47,030
and they're seen regularly falling into

3020
02:22:53,440 --> 02:22:50,181
the Sun and these are the Sun grazing

3021
02:22:56,591 --> 02:22:53,450
comets which again is a very new thing

3022
02:22:58,631 --> 02:22:56,601
but seems to be a potential trigger for

3023
02:23:01,270 --> 02:22:58,641
heightened solar activity if the

3024
02:23:04,051 --> 02:23:01,280
cometary mass plunging into the Sun is

3025
02:23:06,581 --> 02:23:04,061
big enough it may serve as a trigger

3026
02:23:09,160 --> 02:23:06,591
let's see in I'm pulling up something

3027
02:23:12,370 --> 02:23:09,170
else here my heavy do you know how heavy

3028
02:23:14,359 --> 02:23:12,380
of a thought that is you know to wrap

3029
02:23:16,699 --> 02:23:14,369
your mind around and

3030
02:23:20,989 --> 02:23:16,709
who would have considered this in the

3031
02:23:23,859 --> 02:23:20,999
past that is very very fitting and

3032
02:23:27,739 --> 02:23:23,869
here's the really remarkable thing Jimmy

3033
02:23:31,039 --> 02:23:27,749
we're talking about an architecture of a

3034
02:23:33,439 --> 02:23:31,049
solar system here because if it's the

3035
02:23:35,269 --> 02:23:33,449
outer planets we're not aligned exactly

3036
02:23:37,969 --> 02:23:35,279
as they were and by implication it also

3037
02:23:40,909 --> 02:23:37,979
is the the masses of them have to be

3038
02:23:44,419 --> 02:23:40,919
exactly the same this orbital transfer

3039
02:23:47,269 --> 02:23:44,429
of comets could not happen well as we're

3040
02:23:49,579 --> 02:23:47,279
finding out comets may be the harbingers

3041
02:23:53,149 --> 02:23:49,589
of life on earth they probably are they

3042
02:23:56,239 --> 02:23:53,159
almost certainly are delivering the raw

3043
02:23:58,849 --> 02:23:56,249
materials for the formation of primitive

3044
02:24:01,939 --> 02:23:58,859
and both primitive and higher life forms

3045
02:24:05,689 --> 02:24:01,949
so what's interesting here is the same

3046
02:24:10,999 --> 02:24:05,699
force the same celestial agency could be

3047
02:24:12,919 --> 02:24:11,009
not only the destroyer of ecosystems the

3048
02:24:15,169 --> 02:24:12,929
destroyer of civilizations it could also

3049
02:24:18,289 --> 02:24:15,179
be what triggers the birth of new

3050
02:24:22,760 --> 02:24:18,299
systems new eco systems by introducing

3051
02:24:25,429 --> 02:24:22,770
the raw material for genetic mutations

3052
02:24:27,379 --> 02:24:25,439
and we're beginning to find that kind of

3053
02:24:30,379 --> 02:24:27,389
evidence for example in the wake of the

3054
02:24:32,719 --> 02:24:30,389
Tunguska event of 1908 all kinds of

3055
02:24:36,139 --> 02:24:32,729
interesting genetic anomalies are being

3056
02:24:39,109 --> 02:24:36,149
discovered ever accelerated evolution

3057
02:24:40,789 --> 02:24:39,119
and so on and there's a whole science I

3058
02:24:43,459 --> 02:24:40,799
think that we're just on the very verge

3059
02:24:45,919 --> 02:24:43,469
of beginning to understand about the

3060
02:24:48,679 --> 02:24:45,929
relation of life that life is ultimately

3061
02:24:51,019 --> 02:24:48,689
cosmic in origin and not terrestrial and

3062
02:24:52,309 --> 02:24:51,029
see if that's the case Jimmy look over

3063
02:24:53,719 --> 02:24:52,319
city look what we're thinking about you

3064
02:24:55,659 --> 02:24:53,729
when you start looking at the

3065
02:24:58,489 --> 02:24:55,669
architecture of the solar system you

3066
02:25:01,669 --> 02:24:58,499
can't change those parameters hardly at

3067
02:25:03,529 --> 02:25:01,679
all and the whole thing disappears all

3068
02:25:06,439 --> 02:25:03,539
of it life on Earth is gone right

3069
02:25:09,139 --> 02:25:06,449
everything that is this is issued from

3070
02:25:12,169 --> 02:25:09,149
primitive life in the oceans coming out

3071
02:25:14,899 --> 02:25:12,179
of the oceans you know because think

3072
02:25:17,779 --> 02:25:14,909
about this in order to transfer life

3073
02:25:19,699 --> 02:25:17,789
from the oceans from marine existence to

3074
02:25:21,760 --> 02:25:19,709
a land-based existence you have to have

3075
02:25:24,889 --> 02:25:21,770
this interim zone you have to have a

3076
02:25:26,659 --> 02:25:24,899
transitionary zone right what provides

3077
02:25:28,171 --> 02:25:26,669
that transitionary zone it's the

3078
02:25:33,331 --> 02:25:28,181
intertidal zone

3079
02:25:35,581 --> 02:25:33,341
the tides and what creates the tides the

3080
02:25:39,570 --> 02:25:35,591
moon take the moon away and you've got

3081
02:25:44,041 --> 02:25:39,580
no way to get primitive life out of the

3082
02:25:46,560 --> 02:25:44,051
waters of the ocean onto land so without

3083
02:25:50,310 --> 02:25:46,570
getting too teleological here I can't

3084
02:25:53,940 --> 02:25:50,320
help but look at the what would we say

3085
02:25:56,610 --> 02:25:53,950
the Goldilocks conditions of our solar

3086
02:25:59,881 --> 02:25:56,620
system that have to be just exactly

3087
02:26:01,470 --> 02:25:59,891
right or none of this happens you know

3088
02:26:04,261 --> 02:26:01,480
if we were to close if we were a little

3089
02:26:06,211 --> 02:26:04,271
bit closer to the Sun man it's too hot

3090
02:26:07,801 --> 02:26:06,221
that's really the whole planet would

3091
02:26:09,600 --> 02:26:07,811
become desert if we're a little bit

3092
02:26:11,850 --> 02:26:09,610
further away the whole planet becomes

3093
02:26:13,140 --> 02:26:11,860
locked in a permanent ice age if we're a

3094
02:26:15,900 --> 02:26:13,150
little bit smaller

3095
02:26:18,091 --> 02:26:15,910
well the gravitation field is too weak

3096
02:26:20,730 --> 02:26:18,101
right if we're a little bit bigger the

3097
02:26:22,621 --> 02:26:20,740
gravitational field is too big and too

3098
02:26:25,051 --> 02:26:22,631
great and we would basically never get

3099
02:26:28,051 --> 02:26:25,061
beyond we would all be slugs we would be

3100
02:26:30,331 --> 02:26:28,061
slugs now having this conversation but

3101
02:26:32,160 --> 02:26:30,341
you see what I'm getting into is once we

3102
02:26:35,400 --> 02:26:32,170
start defining the parameters we

3103
02:26:38,430 --> 02:26:35,410
realized that turn it looks like this

3104
02:26:41,100 --> 02:26:38,440
whole system was designed or the most

3105
02:26:43,410 --> 02:26:41,110
bizarre accident and how many times

3106
02:26:45,780 --> 02:26:43,420
could this accident have occurred in the

3107
02:26:49,680 --> 02:26:45,790
galaxy or even in the universe I have no

3108
02:26:51,331 --> 02:26:49,690
idea I don't know we've got three

3109
02:26:53,190 --> 02:26:51,341
minutes to the break two minutes I'm

3110
02:26:54,841 --> 02:26:53,200
gonna get this thought out I'm gonna

3111
02:26:59,400 --> 02:26:54,851
keep you for overtime you're not going

3112
02:27:01,950 --> 02:26:59,410
to go to bed yet is is this after every

3113
02:27:04,680 --> 02:27:01,960
mass extinction that we had on this

3114
02:27:07,591 --> 02:27:04,690
planet and some of them were huge were

3115
02:27:12,900 --> 02:27:07,601
90 you know five 90 percent of

3116
02:27:14,871 --> 02:27:12,910
everything died we had every tens of

3117
02:27:17,581 --> 02:27:14,881
thousands if not millions of species

3118
02:27:20,570 --> 02:27:17,591
sprouted up overnight so how did they

3119
02:27:23,070 --> 02:27:20,580
get here how did that happen you know I

3120
02:27:27,001 --> 02:27:23,080
could it have been a comet was there

3121
02:27:30,301 --> 02:27:27,011
some kind of cosmic event where we just

3122
02:27:32,610 --> 02:27:30,311
got receded overnight

3123
02:27:36,301 --> 02:27:32,620
well have you heard of the theory of

3124
02:27:39,780 --> 02:27:36,311
panspermia absolutely of course you have

3125
02:27:42,720 --> 02:27:39,790
yeah now which is certainly I think a

3126
02:27:45,720 --> 02:27:42,730
very as plausible as any as through the

3127
02:27:47,700 --> 02:27:45,730
origin of life on earth now of course a

3128
02:27:50,551 --> 02:27:47,710
sceptic could say well then how do you

3129
02:27:53,040 --> 02:27:50,561
explain the the source of life even if

3130
02:27:55,470 --> 02:27:53,050
it's cosmic an the answer quite honestly

3131
02:27:57,990 --> 02:27:55,480
is I don't know and nobody else knows

3132
02:27:59,640 --> 02:27:58,000
all we can do is speculate you know our

3133
02:28:02,190 --> 02:27:59,650
great occultist at the early part of the

3134
02:28:03,751 --> 02:28:02,200
20th century said well it was just it

3135
02:28:05,400 --> 02:28:03,761
was all the miracle at the beginning and

3136
02:28:07,830 --> 02:28:05,410
everything since then has been physics

3137
02:28:08,881 --> 02:28:07,840
right so we can push it back to the

3138
02:28:10,620 --> 02:28:08,891
whatever at the beginning of the

3139
02:28:13,381 --> 02:28:10,630
universe and yeah nobody can explain

3140
02:28:15,421 --> 02:28:13,391
that nobody can explain what existed

3141
02:28:16,860 --> 02:28:15,431
before the universe well you know what

3142
02:28:19,830 --> 02:28:16,870
does it even mean to ask that question

3143
02:28:22,620 --> 02:28:19,840
what existed before time what existed

3144
02:28:25,110 --> 02:28:22,630
before space you know it I don't usually

3145
02:28:26,700 --> 02:28:25,120
even go there because I'm you know I'm

3146
02:28:28,921 --> 02:28:26,710
gonna leave that to the cosmologists

3147
02:28:31,080 --> 02:28:28,931
I've got to take a little closer to home

3148
02:28:38,001 --> 02:28:31,090
so I've kind of put my limits you know

3149
02:28:43,740 --> 02:28:40,890
have to put limits somewhere no you

3150
02:28:45,480 --> 02:28:43,750
don't Randall into this the second and

3151
02:28:48,150 --> 02:28:45,490
we start putting limits on asking

3152
02:28:49,470 --> 02:28:48,160
questions and and and pondering the

3153
02:28:52,620 --> 02:28:49,480
existence of everything

3154
02:29:01,980 --> 02:28:52,630
we lose so don't stop and let's continue

3155
02:29:03,720 --> 02:29:01,990
at all break tonight the one and only

3156
02:29:05,040 --> 02:29:03,730
Randall Carlson we're gonna do some

3157
02:29:05,910 --> 02:29:05,050
overtime right here we're gonna pick

3158
02:29:08,190 --> 02:29:05,920
this up when we come back

3159
02:29:11,490 --> 02:29:08,200
listen Randall I just got a couple of a

3160
02:29:14,700 --> 02:29:11,500
text and an email and a tweet saying we

3161
02:29:17,640 --> 02:29:14,710
can't let the recap structure go so

3162
02:29:19,560 --> 02:29:17,650
let's say I wrote it down we'll come

3163
02:29:21,961 --> 02:29:19,570
back and discuss that this is fade to

3164
02:29:25,800 --> 02:29:21,971
black our guest tonight Randall Carly

3165
02:29:41,830 --> 02:29:39,150
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3166
02:29:44,650 --> 02:29:41,840
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3167
02:29:50,100 --> 02:29:44,660
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3168
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3169
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3170
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3171
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3172
02:30:06,450 --> 02:30:04,569
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3250
02:34:06,120 --> 02:34:04,410
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3251
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3252
02:34:09,240 --> 02:34:07,569
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3254
02:34:17,729 --> 02:34:15,489
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3255
02:34:19,290 --> 02:34:17,739
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3256
02:34:20,729 --> 02:34:19,300
links for that or over at a jimmy church

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02:34:23,040 --> 02:34:20,739
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3258
02:34:28,590 --> 02:34:23,050
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3259
02:34:34,160 --> 02:34:28,600
simple randall years ago i somebody led

3260
02:34:39,330 --> 02:34:34,170
me to the recap structure over in

3261
02:34:43,320 --> 02:34:39,340
mauritania and yeah and and i remember

3262
02:34:47,340 --> 02:34:43,330
back then goofing around on Google Maps

3263
02:34:49,519 --> 02:34:47,350
and and I saw this thing in Africa

3264
02:34:51,990 --> 02:34:49,529
you know and I'm just rolling around

3265
02:34:53,519 --> 02:34:52,000
Africa right you know whatever going to

3266
02:34:55,620 --> 02:34:53,529
a giza and you know just doing the

3267
02:34:58,769 --> 02:34:55,630
things that you do and in satellite and

3268
02:35:01,559 --> 02:34:58,779
I see it and I went oh that's what you

3269
02:35:03,620 --> 02:35:01,569
know and I zoomed and you can see it is

3270
02:35:06,389 --> 02:35:03,630
one of the most incredible structures

3271
02:35:09,030 --> 02:35:06,399
anywhere on this planet that it should

3272
02:35:11,490 --> 02:35:09,040
be discussed we should have talked about

3273
02:35:15,210 --> 02:35:11,500
it at the beginning of this show you

3274
02:35:19,769 --> 02:35:15,220
know terrain what is going on there what

3275
02:35:22,530 --> 02:35:19,779
is it well I think initially when it was

3276
02:35:25,649 --> 02:35:22,540
first seen during the early days of the

3277
02:35:28,320 --> 02:35:25,659
space program let's see was it seen not

3278
02:35:30,300 --> 02:35:28,330
you're probably back in the early 70s

3279
02:35:32,700 --> 02:35:30,310
maybe you know even even the late

3280
02:35:37,439 --> 02:35:32,710
sixties because I know that Robert Dietz

3281
02:35:40,170 --> 02:35:37,449
was one of the premier astronomers

3282
02:35:42,510 --> 02:35:40,180
studying meteorite impacts back in the

3283
02:35:44,010 --> 02:35:42,520
sixties and I know he he wrote an

3284
02:35:47,429 --> 02:35:44,020
article on it that I think came out in

3285
02:35:49,800 --> 02:35:47,439
1968 and of course initially because of

3286
02:35:52,439 --> 02:35:49,810
the multi ringed nature of the structure

3287
02:35:54,660 --> 02:35:52,449
it was proposed as being the result of

3288
02:35:57,750 --> 02:35:54,670
the some type of an impact probably a an

3289
02:36:00,630 --> 02:35:57,760
asteroid right because impacts into the

3290
02:36:03,300 --> 02:36:00,640
crust be multi ring structures and there

3291
02:36:04,679 --> 02:36:03,310
was material that looked like the type

3292
02:36:06,809 --> 02:36:04,689
of shocked material that you find

3293
02:36:09,120 --> 02:36:06,819
associated with those types of the

3294
02:36:10,800 --> 02:36:09,130
impacts on in this case the material was

3295
02:36:12,030 --> 02:36:10,810
called koa site and so it seemed like

3296
02:36:15,360 --> 02:36:12,040
when they discovered the shocked

3297
02:36:18,180 --> 02:36:15,370
material that was a clincher that it was

3298
02:36:19,980 --> 02:36:18,190
impact produced however other geologists

3299
02:36:22,620 --> 02:36:19,990
came along later took a closer look and

3300
02:36:25,230 --> 02:36:22,630
didn't believe that the KOA site the

3301
02:36:28,230 --> 02:36:25,240
shocked minerals that they presumably

3302
02:36:29,850 --> 02:36:28,240
found were in fact shocked minerals the

3303
02:36:31,830 --> 02:36:29,860
subsequent studies seem to have

3304
02:36:34,290 --> 02:36:31,840
suggested that it was not impact

3305
02:36:36,990 --> 02:36:34,300
produced but that it was likely produced

3306
02:36:39,420 --> 02:36:37,000
from upwelling pressure in a

3307
02:36:42,330 --> 02:36:39,430
hydrothermal vent below which created

3308
02:36:46,070 --> 02:36:42,340
basically a large bubble picture if you

3309
02:36:49,080 --> 02:36:46,080
can bubble that's now like 30 miles wide

3310
02:36:51,360 --> 02:36:49,090
probably thousands of feet high with

3311
02:36:53,960 --> 02:36:51,370
multiple layers in it and this bubble

3312
02:36:56,850 --> 02:36:53,970
because of the the pressure from below

3313
02:37:00,980 --> 02:36:56,860
raises up causes the crust to bulge out

3314
02:37:03,000 --> 02:37:00,990
right so now this undergoes a lot of

3315
02:37:04,620 --> 02:37:03,010
metamorphism because of the intense

3316
02:37:07,860 --> 02:37:04,630
pressure of the uplift but then it

3317
02:37:11,250 --> 02:37:07,870
pretty much solidifies in that state and

3318
02:37:13,560 --> 02:37:11,260
then over millions of years in this case

3319
02:37:17,011 --> 02:37:13,570
because most of the rock there are

3320
02:37:18,960 --> 02:37:17,021
limestone dolomite switch are have been

3321
02:37:21,000 --> 02:37:18,970
dated to the Ordovician period which

3322
02:37:23,341 --> 02:37:21,010
puts them at about 400 million years old

3323
02:37:25,920 --> 02:37:23,351
now if you can picture a bubble a

3324
02:37:29,011 --> 02:37:25,930
layered bubble rising up and then you

3325
02:37:31,530 --> 02:37:29,021
hear the top of that bubble off and what

3326
02:37:33,750 --> 02:37:31,540
it's doing is exposing the layers that

3327
02:37:36,150 --> 02:37:33,760
have been up thrust that the in

3328
02:37:39,841 --> 02:37:36,160
geological terms are dipping towards the

3329
02:37:41,580 --> 02:37:39,851
outside of the structure so there is you

3330
02:37:46,500 --> 02:37:41,590
know some discussion now whether or not

3331
02:37:48,810 --> 02:37:46,510
that could be Atlantis I don't believe

3332
02:37:53,370 --> 02:37:48,820
it was Atlantis because I don't think it

3333
02:37:54,870 --> 02:37:53,380
fits plato's narrative in many ways but

3334
02:37:57,540 --> 02:37:54,880
it is certainly an interesting and

3335
02:37:59,490 --> 02:37:57,550
enigmatic structure mostly the rocks are

3336
02:38:02,280 --> 02:37:59,500
lime stones like I said dolomite there

3337
02:38:06,210 --> 02:38:02,290
are some mud stones there's some sand

3338
02:38:08,790 --> 02:38:06,220
stones what else I think it's mostly

3339
02:38:11,910 --> 02:38:08,800
those kind of five types of rocks which

3340
02:38:13,560 --> 02:38:11,920
you know all natural rocks that form but

3341
02:38:15,841 --> 02:38:13,570
see underneath the thing are these

3342
02:38:17,940 --> 02:38:15,851
hydrothermal vents and these kimberlite

3343
02:38:20,580 --> 02:38:17,950
pipes or their kimberlite pipe which is

3344
02:38:22,350 --> 02:38:20,590
where you know a lot of the diamond

3345
02:38:24,480 --> 02:38:22,360
mines today are in these kimberlite

3346
02:38:27,570 --> 02:38:24,490
pipes where you have tremendous pressure

3347
02:38:29,260 --> 02:38:27,580
upwelling from below and so underneath

3348
02:38:31,599 --> 02:38:29,270
the recants structure there

3349
02:38:33,969 --> 02:38:31,609
a plumbing system see which to me

3350
02:38:36,580 --> 02:38:33,979
clearly points out that whatever its

3351
02:38:39,609 --> 02:38:36,590
origin its natural and so I'm inclined

3352
02:38:44,550 --> 02:38:39,619
now to believe that it is an energetic

3353
02:38:47,290 --> 02:38:44,560
endo genic consequence of an antigenic

3354
02:38:48,760 --> 02:38:47,300
process something along the lines of

3355
02:38:51,910 --> 02:38:48,770
what I just described and I think that's

3356
02:38:54,609 --> 02:38:51,920
conforms more or less to what most of

3357
02:38:55,750 --> 02:38:54,619
the recent studies the betters have been

3358
02:38:57,580 --> 02:38:55,760
a few studies on it

3359
02:38:59,740 --> 02:38:57,590
oh that have come out in the last few

3360
02:39:02,740 --> 02:38:59,750
years and I would have to refresh myself

3361
02:39:04,750 --> 02:39:02,750
on it but well you know what I find

3362
02:39:07,330 --> 02:39:04,760
fascinating there's like three points

3363
02:39:10,240 --> 02:39:07,340
that for me stick out here one

3364
02:39:16,019 --> 02:39:10,250
there's not even a road going to it

3365
02:39:19,269 --> 02:39:16,029
right it's so remote it's not really

3366
02:39:22,929 --> 02:39:19,279
investigated or it is you know a little

3367
02:39:25,120 --> 02:39:22,939
bit but it's so remote nobody goes to it

3368
02:39:27,670 --> 02:39:25,130
that's the first thing and I find that

3369
02:39:30,189 --> 02:39:27,680
very interesting the second thing when I

3370
02:39:32,849 --> 02:39:30,199
look at all of these pictures I've had

3371
02:39:37,599 --> 02:39:32,859
taken over the years it looks to me like

3372
02:39:40,389 --> 02:39:37,609
it could have been what probably was for

3373
02:39:43,149 --> 02:39:40,399
sure surrounded by water and it looks

3374
02:39:47,469 --> 02:39:43,159
like it's been draining out on the on

3375
02:39:49,269 --> 02:39:47,479
the southern southwestern I would say

3376
02:39:51,069 --> 02:39:49,279
seven o'clock I think is the right

3377
02:39:55,439 --> 02:39:51,079
number I want to kind of pick out here

3378
02:39:58,179 --> 02:39:55,449
and it's been draining out to the ocean

3379
02:40:00,880 --> 02:39:58,189
for a year it looks like there's a river

3380
02:40:05,010 --> 02:40:00,890
that that reaches out to the west side

3381
02:40:08,979 --> 02:40:05,020
of Africa that's what it looks to me

3382
02:40:11,380 --> 02:40:08,989
Atlantis possibly could be and I

3383
02:40:13,300 --> 02:40:11,390
understand why that's a thought but it

3384
02:40:16,090 --> 02:40:13,310
definitely looks like it was surrounded

3385
02:40:18,429 --> 02:40:16,100
by water at some point oh I think

3386
02:40:20,279 --> 02:40:18,439
clearly it was it at some point and you

3387
02:40:23,260 --> 02:40:20,289
know the fact that what we're seeing

3388
02:40:25,300 --> 02:40:23,270
going back to the bubble analogy before

3389
02:40:28,149 --> 02:40:25,310
what we're seeing is the core of that

3390
02:40:29,380 --> 02:40:28,159
bubble you know if you picture let's see

3391
02:40:30,929 --> 02:40:29,390
what tonight what could I use as an

3392
02:40:33,819 --> 02:40:30,939
analogy that the listener could

3393
02:40:35,889 --> 02:40:33,829
visualize do you think of any spiracle

3394
02:40:37,840 --> 02:40:35,899
ball and think of everybody seemed

3395
02:40:39,939 --> 02:40:37,850
pictures of the earth right and how

3396
02:40:41,540 --> 02:40:39,949
you've got the lithosphere the

3397
02:40:43,400 --> 02:40:41,550
asthenosphere the mantle

3398
02:40:46,280 --> 02:40:43,410
the core and it's off it's later right

3399
02:40:49,429 --> 02:40:46,290
well imagine a sphere with a bunch of

3400
02:40:51,530 --> 02:40:49,439
layers and then you basically dekappa

3401
02:40:53,750 --> 02:40:51,540
you cut off like the top say

3402
02:40:55,969 --> 02:40:53,760
three-fifths of that sphere and you

3403
02:40:58,219 --> 02:40:55,979
expose now what you would be looking at

3404
02:41:03,080 --> 02:40:58,229
would be rings can you can you visualize

3405
02:41:05,050 --> 02:41:03,090
that I'm looking at it yes yes okay you

3406
02:41:07,429 --> 02:41:05,060
would see rings and that's what we're

3407
02:41:10,190 --> 02:41:07,439
looking at there and that seems I think

3408
02:41:12,130 --> 02:41:10,200
50 the evidence because of the fact of

3409
02:41:14,770 --> 02:41:12,140
this kimberlite pipe being underneath it

3410
02:41:18,440 --> 02:41:14,780
suggested yes there was a magnetic

3411
02:41:20,929 --> 02:41:18,450
magmatic upwelling that then created

3412
02:41:24,050 --> 02:41:20,939
immense pressure below the crust and

3413
02:41:26,030 --> 02:41:24,060
caused the crust to bulge up now over

3414
02:41:29,150 --> 02:41:26,040
succession of millions of years and

3415
02:41:32,030 --> 02:41:29,160
possibly even with catastrophic flooding

3416
02:41:35,500 --> 02:41:32,040
water would have been the primary agent

3417
02:41:39,469 --> 02:41:35,510
in roading away the top of that bubble

3418
02:41:42,370 --> 02:41:39,479
exposing the rings below you see and if

3419
02:41:45,440 --> 02:41:42,380
it's consistent with what I believe the

3420
02:41:48,590 --> 02:41:45,450
geological record shows there have been

3421
02:41:50,900 --> 02:41:48,600
a succession of just as Plato describes

3422
02:41:52,880 --> 02:41:50,910
a succession of gigantic floods that

3423
02:41:54,710 --> 02:41:52,890
have occurred through time and this was

3424
02:41:57,050 --> 02:41:54,720
part of the tradition that was being

3425
02:41:59,150 --> 02:41:57,060
handed down by the Egyptian priests to

3426
02:42:02,179 --> 02:41:59,160
Seoul on who was the one who carried the

3427
02:42:05,900 --> 02:42:02,189
original story of Atlantis back to eat

3428
02:42:08,210 --> 02:42:05,910
it back to Greece and they describe I

3429
02:42:09,889 --> 02:42:08,220
see the thing I think that his ship

3430
02:42:11,840 --> 02:42:09,899
brought about people making this

3431
02:42:14,599 --> 02:42:11,850
correlation is the the ring like

3432
02:42:17,420 --> 02:42:14,609
structure right because Plato describes

3433
02:42:21,080 --> 02:42:17,430
a Multi ring structure there was the

3434
02:42:23,179 --> 02:42:21,090
city core of the of Atlantis however I

3435
02:42:24,710 --> 02:42:23,189
mean the dimensions he uses are not

3436
02:42:26,570 --> 02:42:24,720
really consistent with the recap

3437
02:42:30,320 --> 02:42:26,580
structure the recod structure is much

3438
02:42:34,130 --> 02:42:30,330
much bigger then then the the raine

3439
02:42:37,580 --> 02:42:34,140
structure that Plato describes in in the

3440
02:42:39,620 --> 02:42:37,590
Critias which is a I would highly

3441
02:42:41,929 --> 02:42:39,630
recommend anybody who is interested in

3442
02:42:44,780 --> 02:42:41,939
this kind of thing it's mandatory that

3443
02:42:47,750 --> 02:42:44,790
you read the to play those two dialogues

3444
02:42:49,580 --> 02:42:47,760
Timaeus and Critias because that there's

3445
02:42:51,080 --> 02:42:49,590
so much packed into those two short

3446
02:42:55,250 --> 02:42:51,090
dialogues about everything we've been

3447
02:42:58,280 --> 02:42:55,260
talking about that it's definitely

3448
02:43:00,769 --> 02:42:58,290
on the prerequisite list for anybody who

3449
02:43:02,719 --> 02:43:00,779
is interested in ancient traditions or

3450
02:43:06,500 --> 02:43:02,729
ancient mythology or ancient tradition

3451
02:43:08,750 --> 02:43:06,510
ancient mysteries etc so my take on the

3452
02:43:10,250 --> 02:43:08,760
recap structure is it it's intergenic

3453
02:43:11,809 --> 02:43:10,260
it's natural it may have been

3454
02:43:14,269 --> 02:43:11,819
catastrophic it probably was

3455
02:43:16,460 --> 02:43:14,279
catastrophic we know that there was a

3456
02:43:18,769 --> 02:43:16,470
major one of the major mass extinctions

3457
02:43:20,960 --> 02:43:18,779
during the Ordovician now I don't know

3458
02:43:22,940 --> 02:43:20,970
if that would be associated with the

3459
02:43:26,719 --> 02:43:22,950
forces that created the recap structure

3460
02:43:28,670 --> 02:43:26,729
but it certainly is plausible see but

3461
02:43:31,010 --> 02:43:28,680
yes and then then the fact that it's

3462
02:43:33,980 --> 02:43:31,020
highly erosive it reminds me a lot of

3463
02:43:37,010 --> 02:43:33,990
upheaval dome in Utah which was a buried

3464
02:43:38,950 --> 02:43:37,020
structure probably impact produced but

3465
02:43:42,050 --> 02:43:38,960
they're still arguing whether it was a

3466
02:43:44,690 --> 02:43:42,060
dome from pressure below or whether it

3467
02:43:46,280 --> 02:43:44,700
was created from above but in either

3468
02:43:50,840 --> 02:43:46,290
case you have a multi ring structure

3469
02:43:53,420 --> 02:43:50,850
that was exposed to the basically to the

3470
02:43:55,370 --> 02:43:53,430
light of day by these intense erosional

3471
02:43:57,620 --> 02:43:55,380
processes that stripped away

3472
02:44:00,380 --> 02:43:57,630
hundreds or even thousands of feet of

3473
02:44:02,300 --> 02:44:00,390
rock exposing the core of this thing

3474
02:44:07,219 --> 02:44:02,310
anybody wants to check it out they can

3475
02:44:09,139 --> 02:44:07,229
look up upheaval dome Utah on Google you

3476
02:44:10,670 --> 02:44:09,149
know on Google on Google Earth and

3477
02:44:13,700 --> 02:44:10,680
you'll see this really incredible

3478
02:44:16,820 --> 02:44:13,710
looking multi ring structure which

3479
02:44:19,809 --> 02:44:16,830
possibly similar in formation to the

3480
02:44:22,460 --> 02:44:19,819
recatch structure in Mauritania now

3481
02:44:25,190 --> 02:44:22,470
having been an astute student of

3482
02:44:28,099 --> 02:44:25,200
Playtone particularly of his dialogues

3483
02:44:30,410 --> 02:44:28,109
concerning Atlantis I don't find enough

3484
02:44:34,610 --> 02:44:30,420
points of correlation between the two to

3485
02:44:39,019 --> 02:44:34,620
attribute recap to being Atlantis has

3486
02:44:42,380 --> 02:44:39,029
anybody done a dig there you know

3487
02:44:44,780 --> 02:44:42,390
looking for any signs of ancient life or

3488
02:44:47,389 --> 02:44:44,790
civilizations any structures well I'm

3489
02:44:49,610 --> 02:44:47,399
presuming that yes they have yes some

3490
02:44:50,929 --> 02:44:49,620
have their geologist visited that's how

3491
02:44:52,790 --> 02:44:50,939
they know that the lime stones are

3492
02:44:54,469 --> 02:44:52,800
already Sheehan for example because

3493
02:44:57,139 --> 02:44:54,479
they've gone there and taken samples and

3494
02:44:58,429 --> 02:44:57,149
looked at the the creatures that are

3495
02:45:02,540 --> 02:44:58,439
forming the limestone because you know

3496
02:45:04,849 --> 02:45:02,550
limestone forms it's it's a it forms it

3497
02:45:08,511 --> 02:45:04,859
submarine it forms under water it forms

3498
02:45:11,961 --> 02:45:08,521
under oceans by this the the carcasses

3499
02:45:13,570 --> 02:45:11,971
of the small sea life settling to the

3500
02:45:16,511 --> 02:45:13,580
bottom of the ocean and then becoming

3501
02:45:19,580 --> 02:45:16,521
compacted and eventually forming these

3502
02:45:21,830 --> 02:45:19,590
limestone rocks which are sedimentary

3503
02:45:24,711 --> 02:45:21,840
rocks so there are extensive lime stones

3504
02:45:27,350 --> 02:45:24,721
and those lime stones have been sampled

3505
02:45:29,240 --> 02:45:27,360
so you know it's very plausible that

3506
02:45:31,461 --> 02:45:29,250
people occupy I think that it would have

3507
02:45:33,530 --> 02:45:31,471
been a probably a likely place some time

3508
02:45:35,870 --> 02:45:33,540
or another for people to occupy and it

3509
02:45:38,780 --> 02:45:35,880
probably held lakes but I have not seen

3510
02:45:41,060 --> 02:45:38,790
any studies yet getting into that level

3511
02:45:44,780 --> 02:45:41,070
of detail like you said it's a structure

3512
02:45:47,870 --> 02:45:44,790
that is worthy of more study and more

3513
02:45:50,091 --> 02:45:47,880
research than it's had and I hope to see

3514
02:45:52,160 --> 02:45:50,101
that you know in the next few years I do

3515
02:45:54,261 --> 02:45:52,170
think it's very plausible that it held

3516
02:45:56,180 --> 02:45:54,271
lakes that there were rivers out flowing

3517
02:45:58,640 --> 02:45:56,190
from it and then it was probably habitat

3518
02:46:00,711 --> 02:45:58,650
human habitation along the shores of

3519
02:46:03,830 --> 02:46:00,721
those lakes and rivers it's fat zone

3520
02:46:05,540 --> 02:46:03,840
however yeah however make the connection

3521
02:46:07,820 --> 02:46:05,550
with Atlantis other than the fact that

3522
02:46:09,950 --> 02:46:07,830
you have multi ring structures in both

3523
02:46:12,650 --> 02:46:09,960
cases right now I will say this the

3524
02:46:14,900 --> 02:46:12,660
plato's model for Atlantis may have been

3525
02:46:18,290 --> 02:46:14,910
derived from observations of natural

3526
02:46:22,790 --> 02:46:18,300
multi ring structures that's right and

3527
02:46:25,400 --> 02:46:22,800
when you look at northern Africa in in

3528
02:46:27,860 --> 02:46:25,410
Google Earth and satellite there's a

3529
02:46:30,470 --> 02:46:27,870
couple of things that stand out that are

3530
02:46:33,591 --> 02:46:30,480
very visible right the Nile and the Nile

3531
02:46:37,131 --> 02:46:33,601
Valley and the recod structure it's that

3532
02:46:42,740 --> 02:46:37,141
big I mean is Norma's it's just it's

3533
02:46:45,470 --> 02:46:42,750
it's incredible it's 30 miles and I

3534
02:46:49,520 --> 02:46:45,480
would be about 30 miles in diameter so

3535
02:46:50,720 --> 02:46:49,530
yeah that's that's big and now before we

3536
02:46:53,390 --> 02:46:50,730
get out of here

3537
02:46:55,700 --> 02:46:53,400
I wanted to ask you one other thing and

3538
02:46:58,310 --> 02:46:55,710
I was discussing this with Edie the

3539
02:47:01,131 --> 02:46:58,320
other day when we are talking about the

3540
02:47:04,910 --> 02:47:01,141
cosmology of everything at the zodiac

3541
02:47:09,440 --> 02:47:04,920
the the timing of certain celestial

3542
02:47:13,850 --> 02:47:09,450
events with cataclysms here on earth is

3543
02:47:16,040 --> 02:47:13,860
there a way to use it to take a look at

3544
02:47:19,671 --> 02:47:16,050
the future and maybe predict when

3545
02:47:23,110 --> 02:47:19,681
something may happen well the problem

3546
02:47:27,410 --> 02:47:23,120
with that is is we're looking at two

3547
02:47:30,620 --> 02:47:27,420
to which I say two tempos juxtaposed on

3548
02:47:33,680 --> 02:47:30,630
each other one seems to be just totally

3549
02:47:34,940 --> 02:47:33,690
random right there are random changes

3550
02:47:37,190 --> 02:47:34,950
that occurred that are totally

3551
02:47:38,780 --> 02:47:37,200
unpredictable on the other hand there

3552
02:47:41,270 --> 02:47:38,790
are changes that are predictable for

3553
02:47:43,220 --> 02:47:41,280
example I bring it into a scale that

3554
02:47:46,160 --> 02:47:43,230
more human scale at somebody might be

3555
02:47:48,710 --> 02:47:46,170
able to understand okay we can predict

3556
02:47:51,620 --> 02:47:48,720
with a fair degree of confidence now

3557
02:47:55,011 --> 02:47:51,630
that you know winter is upon us now

3558
02:47:57,261 --> 02:47:55,021
whatever region of the world that you

3559
02:47:59,600 --> 02:47:57,271
live in like for example I'm in North

3560
02:48:02,360 --> 02:47:59,610
Georgia so I know that we're probably

3561
02:48:04,730 --> 02:48:02,370
going to get a number of nights below

3562
02:48:08,690 --> 02:48:04,740
freezing we know that it's probably

3563
02:48:11,000 --> 02:48:08,700
going to be sometime between now and mid

3564
02:48:13,040 --> 02:48:11,010
to semper that that happens well we can

3565
02:48:15,261 --> 02:48:13,050
pinpoint we can make some prediction up

3566
02:48:18,530 --> 02:48:15,271
to probably within a few weeks plus or

3567
02:48:20,900 --> 02:48:18,540
minus but to pinpoint the exact date no

3568
02:48:22,551 --> 02:48:20,910
that would be very difficult what we can

3569
02:48:25,400 --> 02:48:22,561
do is we can look at the picture and we

3570
02:48:27,740 --> 02:48:25,410
can get a range of possibilities and we

3571
02:48:29,720 --> 02:48:27,750
can say well if we look back over the

3572
02:48:31,790 --> 02:48:29,730
last roughly hundred and five thousand

3573
02:48:35,591 --> 02:48:31,800
years it appears that there have been

3574
02:48:38,960 --> 02:48:35,601
four periods of glaciation interspersed

3575
02:48:42,320 --> 02:48:38,970
with periods shorter periods of inter

3576
02:48:45,381 --> 02:48:42,330
glaciation if we go back even a quarter

3577
02:48:47,301 --> 02:48:45,391
million years we find that the problem

3578
02:48:49,430 --> 02:48:47,311
is as the record gets older it gets more

3579
02:48:52,060 --> 02:48:49,440
obscure but we can still see that

3580
02:48:54,830 --> 02:48:52,070
there's this oscillation this this

3581
02:48:56,540 --> 02:48:54,840
shifting from glacial ages to

3582
02:48:59,650 --> 02:48:56,550
interglacial ages we are now in an

3583
02:49:02,420 --> 02:48:59,660
interglacial age right now if we go back

3584
02:49:06,160 --> 02:49:02,430
roughly two-and-a-half to 2.6 million

3585
02:49:09,230 --> 02:49:06,170
years ago we see major transition right

3586
02:49:11,330 --> 02:49:09,240
Pliocene gateway to the Pleistocene the

3587
02:49:15,020 --> 02:49:11,340
end of the Pliocene was a long period of

3588
02:49:16,520 --> 02:49:15,030
pretty much stable warmth something

3589
02:49:19,551 --> 02:49:16,530
happened around two-and-a-half million

3590
02:49:22,490 --> 02:49:19,561
years ago that caused a major planetary

3591
02:49:26,720 --> 02:49:22,500
environmental shift and this oscillation

3592
02:49:29,210 --> 02:49:26,730
of glacial interglacial ages began it

3593
02:49:31,190 --> 02:49:29,220
dominated the climatic cycle for the

3594
02:49:34,280 --> 02:49:31,200
whole of the Pleistocene for two and a

3595
02:49:35,120 --> 02:49:34,290
half million years now according to some

3596
02:49:39,290 --> 02:49:35,130
thought

3597
02:49:41,600 --> 02:49:39,300
and you know 11600 years ago others of

3598
02:49:44,480 --> 02:49:41,610
question well has it really ended or are

3599
02:49:46,670 --> 02:49:44,490
we still in the oscillating cycle of

3600
02:49:47,990 --> 02:49:46,680
glacial interglacial ages no one has an

3601
02:49:49,550 --> 02:49:48,000
answer to that question at this point

3602
02:49:51,590 --> 02:49:49,560
here's one thing we do know though

3603
02:49:53,300 --> 02:49:51,600
looking at the record it has been

3604
02:49:56,090 --> 02:49:53,310
reconstructed of last quarter million

3605
02:49:58,910 --> 02:49:56,100
years which is based upon ice core

3606
02:50:01,850 --> 02:49:58,920
records from from Greenland from Tibet

3607
02:50:04,040 --> 02:50:01,860
from Antarctica from deep sea coral

3608
02:50:07,940 --> 02:50:04,050
records taken through in the Atlantic in

3609
02:50:10,429 --> 02:50:07,950
the Pacific in the Arctic Ocean in in

3610
02:50:12,679 --> 02:50:10,439
the speleothems formation in caves which

3611
02:50:15,290 --> 02:50:12,689
is dependent upon the amount of water

3612
02:50:17,320 --> 02:50:15,300
and percolating through the rock which

3613
02:50:19,760 --> 02:50:17,330
is dependent upon the amount of rainfall

3614
02:50:22,520 --> 02:50:19,770
looking at tree rings I mean there's a

3615
02:50:26,179 --> 02:50:22,530
whole multitude of these proxies that

3616
02:50:28,190 --> 02:50:26,189
have been used to reconstruct ancient

3617
02:50:29,840 --> 02:50:28,200
climate looking at pollen you know

3618
02:50:32,210 --> 02:50:29,850
digging up a core and looking at the

3619
02:50:34,940 --> 02:50:32,220
type of pollen and realizing oh look

3620
02:50:37,550 --> 02:50:34,950
here we've got pollen that's from trees

3621
02:50:39,790 --> 02:50:37,560
that grow in northern latitudes and then

3622
02:50:43,010 --> 02:50:39,800
on top of that we have pollen that's

3623
02:50:45,050 --> 02:50:43,020
deposited by trees growing 500 or a

3624
02:50:47,480 --> 02:50:45,060
thousand miles farther south so

3625
02:50:49,610 --> 02:50:47,490
obviously you can conclude there was a

3626
02:50:51,200 --> 02:50:49,620
major shift in climate so around

3627
02:50:53,210 --> 02:50:51,210
two-and-a-half million years ago major

3628
02:50:56,389 --> 02:50:53,220
shift in climate the climate of the

3629
02:50:58,160 --> 02:50:56,399
planet cooled dramatically we began this

3630
02:51:00,590 --> 02:50:58,170
period this oscillating period of

3631
02:51:04,310 --> 02:51:00,600
glacial interglacial ages and within

3632
02:51:07,760 --> 02:51:04,320
that span of time to the extent that we

3633
02:51:11,090 --> 02:51:07,770
can discern the duration or length of

3634
02:51:13,670 --> 02:51:11,100
the interglacial warm periods what it is

3635
02:51:15,980 --> 02:51:13,680
now appearing is that the Holocene the

3636
02:51:18,230 --> 02:51:15,990
one we're in now is the longest

3637
02:51:20,710 --> 02:51:18,240
interglacial warm period of a quarter

3638
02:51:23,090 --> 02:51:20,720
million years so what does that imply

3639
02:51:24,800 --> 02:51:23,100
well you can you can ball that over

3640
02:51:28,429 --> 02:51:24,810
yourself and think about what that

3641
02:51:31,000 --> 02:51:28,439
implies but to me what it implies is we

3642
02:51:34,250 --> 02:51:31,010
can't take anything for granted because

3643
02:51:36,920 --> 02:51:34,260
when when a break came earlier I was

3644
02:51:38,750 --> 02:51:36,930
just mention in Canada because when we

3645
02:51:41,810 --> 02:51:38,760
go back to the last interglacial period

3646
02:51:44,110 --> 02:51:41,820
we have to think that okay a global

3647
02:51:46,730 --> 02:51:44,120
climate similar told we were in now now

3648
02:51:48,260 --> 02:51:46,740
presently you have a lot of snow that

3649
02:51:49,011 --> 02:51:48,270
falls over the northern United States

3650
02:51:51,860 --> 02:51:49,021
and Canada

3651
02:51:54,051 --> 02:51:51,870
in the winter spring comes it all melts

3652
02:51:55,730 --> 02:51:54,061
away and goes back into the into the

3653
02:51:57,950 --> 02:51:55,740
rivers into from the rivers into the

3654
02:52:00,500 --> 02:51:57,960
oceans right this is the hydrological

3655
02:52:03,711 --> 02:52:00,510
cycle and it keeps going and it's very

3656
02:52:06,051 --> 02:52:03,721
predictable but now imagine this you've

3657
02:52:07,970 --> 02:52:06,061
got you know six seven months of winter

3658
02:52:11,660 --> 02:52:07,980
in the northern United States in Canada

3659
02:52:15,200 --> 02:52:11,670
right and fairly confident that come

3660
02:52:17,980 --> 02:52:15,210
April May spring is going to come the

3661
02:52:19,910 --> 02:52:17,990
snow will melt away but now imagine this

3662
02:52:22,640 --> 02:52:19,920
the snow comes

3663
02:52:25,671 --> 02:52:22,650
but then spring doesn't come spring

3664
02:52:27,650 --> 02:52:25,681
doesn't come for ten or fifteen thousand

3665
02:52:29,750 --> 02:52:27,660
years and that's literally what we're

3666
02:52:31,520 --> 02:52:29,760
talking about here now instead of the

3667
02:52:31,881 --> 02:52:31,530
snow melting away and going back to the

3668
02:52:33,830 --> 02:52:31,891
ocean

3669
02:52:37,011 --> 02:52:33,840
it just accumulates layer after layer

3670
02:52:39,320 --> 02:52:37,021
after layer after layer until eventually

3671
02:52:42,230 --> 02:52:39,330
it's a mile thick or two miles thick and

3672
02:52:44,900 --> 02:52:42,240
that is almost inconceivable but it

3673
02:52:48,470 --> 02:52:44,910
happens and it has happened and we're

3674
02:52:50,750 --> 02:52:48,480
still not sure why and but I can tell

3675
02:52:53,150 --> 02:52:50,760
you this a high priority is that we

3676
02:52:54,980 --> 02:52:53,160
figure this [\h__\h] out Jimmy and and this

3677
02:52:57,320 --> 02:52:54,990
is why I get frustrated when I hear

3678
02:52:59,511 --> 02:52:57,330
people for political reasons and

3679
02:53:02,390 --> 02:52:59,521
promoting political agendas saying well

3680
02:53:05,360 --> 02:53:02,400
the debate on climate change is settled

3681
02:53:09,381 --> 02:53:05,370
and my response to that is no it hasn't

3682
02:53:11,240 --> 02:53:09,391
really even begun yet so excuse me if I

3683
02:53:15,671 --> 02:53:11,250
get a little bit irritated when I hear

3684
02:53:20,750 --> 02:53:15,681
that but I do Randall you have critics

3685
02:53:22,970 --> 02:53:20,760
you actually have critics oh I do oh man

3686
02:53:25,490 --> 02:53:22,980
I want to know I do and it's usually the

3687
02:53:27,530 --> 02:53:25,500
same it's usually the same variations on

3688
02:53:29,270 --> 02:53:27,540
the same theme over and over again they

3689
02:53:30,671 --> 02:53:29,280
never address the facts that I've

3690
02:53:32,780 --> 02:53:30,681
brought to the discussion because

3691
02:53:34,910 --> 02:53:32,790
everything we've been discussing tonight

3692
02:53:36,290 --> 02:53:34,920
hi you you want you want to challenge me

3693
02:53:39,290 --> 02:53:36,300
I will provide you the references

3694
02:53:41,030 --> 02:53:39,300
copious references this isn't just

3695
02:53:43,700 --> 02:53:41,040
something I've concerned up out of my

3696
02:53:45,171 --> 02:53:43,710
head after you know I got to stoned one

3697
02:53:48,770 --> 02:53:45,181
night or something this is something I

3698
02:53:53,600 --> 02:53:48,780
have been working on since 1969 okay

3699
02:53:55,520 --> 02:53:53,610
right how many it's 49 years okay so you

3700
02:53:57,620 --> 02:53:55,530
know don't don't come to me and say

3701
02:54:00,711 --> 02:53:57,630
something about well he hasn't been

3702
02:54:02,610 --> 02:54:00,721
peer-reviewed well peer-reviewed

3703
02:54:04,440 --> 02:54:02,620
I'm sorry happens to be a

3704
02:54:05,670 --> 02:54:04,450
RUP processes at this why I won't use

3705
02:54:08,730 --> 02:54:05,680
the term corrupt I would use the word

3706
02:54:11,520 --> 02:54:08,740
compromised and you can go and you can

3707
02:54:15,511 --> 02:54:11,530
present a very thoroughly well

3708
02:54:17,551 --> 02:54:15,521
researched very specialized research

3709
02:54:20,341 --> 02:54:17,561
article presented it presented to the

3710
02:54:22,680 --> 02:54:20,351
scientific literature pay them a lot of

3711
02:54:25,920 --> 02:54:22,690
money and they will publish it if they

3712
02:54:29,220 --> 02:54:25,930
seem fit if they think that it conforms

3713
02:54:31,261 --> 02:54:29,230
to their models of reality if it doesn't

3714
02:54:33,390 --> 02:54:31,271
it doesn't matter how well researched it

3715
02:54:36,180 --> 02:54:33,400
is how buttress it is by facts by

3716
02:54:37,770 --> 02:54:36,190
evidence it will get rejected and and

3717
02:54:39,930 --> 02:54:37,780
I'm sorry to say that's a part of the

3718
02:54:41,640 --> 02:54:39,940
peer-review process right now and since

3719
02:54:45,080 --> 02:54:41,650
we've now got hundreds of millions of

3720
02:54:47,841 --> 02:54:45,090
dollars flowing into the coffers of the

3721
02:54:51,570 --> 02:54:47,851
IPCC and various government agencies

3722
02:54:54,150 --> 02:54:51,580
whose primary responsibility is

3723
02:54:56,640 --> 02:54:54,160
promoting human caused climate change

3724
02:54:59,160 --> 02:54:56,650
and that they have a very powerful

3725
02:55:01,110 --> 02:54:59,170
influence on mainstream scientific

3726
02:55:03,240 --> 02:55:01,120
literature if you come with something

3727
02:55:05,070 --> 02:55:03,250
that's going to contradict that well

3728
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your chances of getting rejected are

3729
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very high so that the peer-reviewed

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process is compromised the second thing

3731
02:55:13,320 --> 02:55:12,851
is well I don't have a formal degree and

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I don't

3733
02:55:20,250 --> 02:55:18,220
was in majoring in geology I'm looking

3734
02:55:21,570 --> 02:55:20,260
at well what are the you know what is

3735
02:55:23,520 --> 02:55:21,580
the professional

3736
02:55:25,740 --> 02:55:23,530
outcomes of this do I want to work for

3737
02:55:28,591 --> 02:55:25,750
industry not really do I want to work

3738
02:55:29,341 --> 02:55:28,601
for the government no not at all what

3739
02:55:30,990 --> 02:55:29,351
does that leave me

3740
02:55:34,200 --> 02:55:31,000
well nowhere other than the fact and I'm

3741
02:55:36,690 --> 02:55:34,210
studying geology because I love geology

3742
02:55:39,540 --> 02:55:36,700
I love understanding how the world world

3743
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works so I carry on my own business in

3744
02:55:43,830 --> 02:55:42,101
my you know my day job and I've set up

3745
02:55:46,400 --> 02:55:43,840
my business that it gives me enough free

3746
02:55:49,230 --> 02:55:46,410
time that I can spend all my free time

3747
02:55:51,780 --> 02:55:49,240
interacting with the earth interacting

3748
02:55:54,690 --> 02:55:51,790
with professionals and I can say since I

3749
02:55:56,011 --> 02:55:54,700
you know gone more public with this in

3750
02:55:58,500 --> 02:55:56,021
the last three or four years I've had

3751
02:56:00,690 --> 02:55:58,510
the privilege of interacting with dozens

3752
02:56:03,301 --> 02:56:00,700
of professionals that are engaged in

3753
02:56:05,280 --> 02:56:03,311
cutting-edge work that have reached out

3754
02:56:07,051 --> 02:56:05,290
to me I've spent time in the field with

3755
02:56:09,420 --> 02:56:07,061
now several dozen scientists that are

3756
02:56:12,540 --> 02:56:09,430
doing cutting-edge work and I'll say

3757
02:56:14,341 --> 02:56:12,550
this going out in the field for four or

3758
02:56:16,230 --> 02:56:14,351
five days or a week with somebody doing

3759
02:56:18,719 --> 02:56:16,240
cutting-edge research for exam

3760
02:56:21,719 --> 02:56:18,729
or one geologist that I went out with

3761
02:56:25,140 --> 02:56:21,729
with Brad young back a year ago last

3762
02:56:27,570 --> 02:56:25,150
October was one of the leading world's

3763
02:56:30,060 --> 02:56:27,580
experts on the formation of drumlins

3764
02:56:32,670 --> 02:56:30,070
which are an extremely interesting

3765
02:56:35,250 --> 02:56:32,680
enigmatic geomorphological feature right

3766
02:56:38,100 --> 02:56:35,260
now I spent four days within the field

3767
02:56:41,010 --> 02:56:38,110
with him I would consider that it's

3768
02:56:42,960 --> 02:56:41,020
valuable as a seminar of sitting in a

3769
02:56:45,840 --> 02:56:42,970
geology classroom listening to a

3770
02:56:47,910 --> 02:56:45,850
professor drone on and on now see I've

3771
02:56:50,340 --> 02:56:47,920
been doing this for 40 years now so then

3772
02:56:52,920 --> 02:56:50,350
when I get attacked by the critics

3773
02:56:55,620 --> 02:56:52,930
they never attack really the information

3774
02:56:59,760 --> 02:56:55,630
very seldom what they do is they attack

3775
02:57:02,580 --> 02:56:59,770
it's all ad hominem stuff you know well

3776
02:57:04,230 --> 02:57:02,590
my approach is that I'm like the fact

3777
02:57:06,270 --> 02:57:04,240
that I'm doing this with you now is

3778
02:57:09,840 --> 02:57:06,280
because I'm putting this information out

3779
02:57:11,520 --> 02:57:09,850
for peer review by the world you get it

3780
02:57:14,250 --> 02:57:11,530
I'm putting this out there and I go on

3781
02:57:16,740 --> 02:57:14,260
Joe Rogan so 10 million or 15 or 20

3782
02:57:18,300 --> 02:57:16,750
million people will hear it and they can

3783
02:57:20,400 --> 02:57:18,310
do their peer review they can do their

3784
02:57:22,950 --> 02:57:20,410
homework they can check my sources and I

3785
02:57:24,990 --> 02:57:22,960
challenge them to check my sources and

3786
02:57:26,700 --> 02:57:25,000
occasionally I am wrong of course

3787
02:57:29,010 --> 02:57:26,710
because anybody who attempts to amass a

3788
02:57:30,900 --> 02:57:29,020
huge accumulation of information like

3789
02:57:33,660 --> 02:57:30,910
this is going to occasionally misstep

3790
02:57:35,760 --> 02:57:33,670
but the fact is I think that that most

3791
02:57:39,780 --> 02:57:35,770
of what I have gathered together stands

3792
02:57:43,590 --> 02:57:39,790
the test the critical test and so the

3793
02:57:45,990 --> 02:57:43,600
critics I actually welcome people with

3794
02:57:48,420 --> 02:57:46,000
with informed criticism informed

3795
02:57:50,130 --> 02:57:48,430
fair-minded criticism who are looking at

3796
02:57:51,960 --> 02:57:50,140
the information I present with with an

3797
02:57:54,600 --> 02:57:51,970
open mind grazers and say basically

3798
02:57:56,400 --> 02:57:54,610
coming on in regurgitating some textbook

3799
02:57:58,440 --> 02:57:56,410
explanation which I've gotten quite a

3800
02:58:00,990 --> 02:57:58,450
bit of you know I can see well somebody

3801
02:58:02,760 --> 02:58:01,000
took a geology course in college 15

3802
02:58:04,890 --> 02:58:02,770
years ago so they're going to quote some

3803
02:58:07,110 --> 02:58:04,900
textbook explanation to me about what

3804
02:58:10,640 --> 02:58:07,120
causes the post-glacial leg of floods

3805
02:58:14,490 --> 02:58:10,650
for example well no okay Randall Randall

3806
02:58:18,060 --> 02:58:14,500
I'm gonna be cut off by the network so

3807
02:58:21,000 --> 02:58:18,070
just let me just say this I've got a run

3808
02:58:22,770 --> 02:58:21,010
I gotta say thank you right now and I

3809
02:58:25,110 --> 02:58:22,780
hate to cut you off in the middle of a

3810
02:58:25,480 --> 02:58:25,120
thought but the network's going to do

3811
02:58:29,140 --> 02:58:25,490
that

3812
02:58:31,450 --> 02:58:29,150
take the blame for it

3813
02:58:33,250 --> 02:58:31,460
random cocaine in the middle of my rant

3814
02:58:35,560 --> 02:58:33,260
I know I know

3815
02:58:37,900 --> 02:58:35,570
well I'm glad I got that off my chest

3816
02:58:39,430 --> 02:58:37,910
yes you did you have that perspective on

3817
02:58:41,770 --> 02:58:39,440
this whole thing on the records that

3818
02:58:43,570 --> 02:58:41,780
we've got on the record don't we and

3819
02:58:46,480 --> 02:58:43,580
Randall don't ever change my friend

3820
02:58:46,750 --> 02:58:46,490
don't ever change thank you so much all

3821
02:58:49,570 --> 02:58:46,760
right

3822
02:58:51,930 --> 02:58:49,580
thanks Jimmy you're the best Randall

3823
02:58:53,950 --> 02:58:51,940
Carlson sacred geometry

3824
02:58:56,770 --> 02:58:53,960
international.com the links are at Jimmy

3825
02:58:58,870 --> 02:58:56,780
Turks radio.com and like I said I had to

3826
02:59:01,631 --> 02:58:58,880
cut them off it's better that I do it

3827
02:59:03,820 --> 02:59:01,641
then the network and doing it so rudely

3828
02:59:07,810 --> 02:59:03,830
fade to black it's produced by rate

3829
02:59:10,480 --> 02:59:07,820
ritika Murray on shows produced by Hill

3830
02:59:12,160 --> 02:59:10,490
Jay Paul Renee Dennis and Bob announcers

3831
02:59:14,171 --> 02:59:12,170
our Steve Carter Jeeva Toma Mark T

3832
02:59:16,900 --> 02:59:14,181
Colbert webmaster drew the geek music

3833
02:59:18,910 --> 02:59:16,910
doug aldrich intro space boy space boy

3834
02:59:21,790 --> 02:59:18,920
music calm fade the black kids produced

3835
02:59:25,270 --> 02:59:21,800
by kjsurya he met work syndication is

3836
02:59:28,360 --> 02:59:25,280
kgr a the planet thank you to Randall

3837
02:59:30,400 --> 02:59:28,370
Carlson for everything that he does it's

3838
02:59:31,810 --> 02:59:30,410
broadcast on the copyright of 2018 by

3839
02:59:33,310 --> 02:59:31,820
fade to black in the game changer

3840
02:59:35,290 --> 02:59:33,320
Network it cannot be rebroadcast

3841
02:59:36,790 --> 02:59:35,300
download a copy to use anywhere in the

3842
02:59:38,470 --> 02:59:36,800
known universe without written

3843
02:59:40,120 --> 02:59:38,480
permission for fade to black of the game

3844
02:59:42,430 --> 02:59:40,130
changer Network I'm Erin CB Church

3845
02:59:45,160 --> 02:59:42,440
follow me on twitter I teachers radio

3846
02:59:48,310 --> 02:59:45,170
you can follow Randall at sacred

3847
02:59:50,860 --> 02:59:48,320
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3848
02:59:53,350 --> 02:59:50,870
courses website said to me church radio

3849
02:59:55,150 --> 02:59:53,360
calm alright everybody until tomorrow

3850
03:00:02,270 --> 02:59:55,160
night open lines I'm your oath to me